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Where are the primers

Discussion in 'Handloading and Reloading' started by wvshooter, Jul 26, 2009.

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  1. wvshooter

    wvshooter Member

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    I need/want small pistol primers. I have 1400. I would like to have two to three thousand more. I would not turn my back on an additional 5k. Our esteemed new anti 2nd amendment president in chief has frightened a few, or should I say a few thousands of my like minded gun enthusiast friends into scarfing up every small pistol primer in north America. So let's get down to the issue as it is today. Where/how can I score some small pistol primers. And please don't refer me to Gun Broker where certain opportunist are getting double the normal rate. If I have to hunker down for another year I will not pay those kind of prices.
     
  2. Birdmang

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    The only reason you cant find any is because people scarf up 5k of them.
     
  3. Tim the student

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    Keep your eyes open. My local stores get them in occasionally, but you have to be quick - they go quickly as we all know.
     
  4. JCisHe

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    Yeah man, the very framing of your question says why we can't get any primers. You need an additional 5k on top of your 1400? Shhhh...

    That's why prices are going to stay up, quantities be scarce, and people continue to complain. They can sit on the shelf at the store. They don't need to be hoarded away in everyones "end of the world" supply.

    I mean, man, I got 2k over 8 months, and still have 400 left. This post makes me angry. Couldn't you just wait until you break the 1k mark and then buy another 1k? That should be, even if you are shooting 200 every week, which you're probably not, 5 weeks supply and it's more likely 5 months supply! Yet, gotta have 2-5k more right now!

    This has nothing to do with Obama, he might have been the catalyst, just because he's democrat, but now it's just plain old greed.
     
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  5. evan price

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    JCisHe: "Judge not, etc..."

    I shoot a lot. I try to keep 10K small pistol and 5K large pistol in stock. It's not uncommon to pop off a thousand in one range session. As far as hoarding, there are those that stock up. Then there are those who choose to buy flashlight batteries and bottled water when the hurricane is barely hours away from landfall, too. They usually are not successful in getting what they need.

    Don't blame me, I bought my flashlight batteries and bottled water and primers months ago.
     
  6. JimKirk

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    Problem is there is a hurricane in the gulf, the east coast, the west coast and one in each of the great lakes! Until people stop buying 30,000 every time the find them there are going to be hurricanes everywhere!

    Jimmy K
     
  7. theoneandonlyhoppy

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    It's going to be a while before primers are widely available again. The manufacturers have completed ammunition as their top priority and components come after that. As long as factory ammo is flying off the shelves as fast as they can make it component availability will be scarce. Your best bet for today is to find a dealer that will take backorders and wait in line.
     
  8. Nate1778

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    Might as well get used to Hunkering. Put in a back order at Grafs, that should take care of you in 2010. Otherwise watch places like Wideners and be ready to pull the trigger on some when they become available. There is a reason the ones on Gunbroker are so high, demand is strong and supply is nonexistent.
     
  9. MikeS.

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    Hey the OP is in Charleston, WV. the most dangerous spot in the state. He could go through 500 rounds in a weekend easy. Fighting off the drug crazed Zombies. :)
     
  10. atbarr

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    If he purchases these online, it would be stupid to buy only a 1000, due to the Hazmat charges.

    A.T.
     
  11. moooose102

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    look in small, "mom and pops" type of shops. they get less traffic, and if it has been in business for some time, usually have a strong aliance with suppliers. i have two small old time gunsmiths that are reasonable distance from me, and i can usually find primers when i need them. but share the wealth. others out there need them also. when i buy, i buy 1k at a time. in fact, both of the two have comented about people hoarding stuff. i do not think they would allow any one customer to buy out their whole inventory.
     
  12. JCisHe

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    Doesn't have to do with judging it has to do with reality. Perhaps Evan, you shoot 1000 rnds a range session (which seems like MASSIVE over-kill) but not many do and just buying primers to have primers is causing this whole mess. I mean, you're the guy who wiped out the supply shelf 10 minutes before me and two other guys got there to get 1k so we could load some rounds and take our nephews out shooting. Why? So you could have 10k and blast 1k a range session?

    Atbarr, that's right but how many people really need 5k? Why are the stores empty? Why can't we keep a SINGLE pack of 1k on the shelf? I mean, guys come in and say, "well, I only need 1k but I may as well take all 10k because supply is scarce" and then... there we go. Supply really is scarce. We should be able to pick up 1k on a shelf and order 10k (which very FEW people actually need) from the internet.

    It's just greed. The funny thing about it is very few people, with 10k primers, would be willing to share with a guy. Even though they have a years supply (and most people 10 years supply) they can't part with them because they might not be able to get any! Ridiculous!
     
  13. Birdmang

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    Thank you^
     
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    Who are you to tell him how much he shoots, or should shoot? You are not the measuring stick of what people should do. If somebody typically loads up 500-1000 rounds of a particular load at one time, having 5k primers on hand doesn't go very far. What's sad is that you're probably the same people who rail against 'redistribution of wealth' but you'd love to redistribute primers :scrutiny: And what if it is a 5 months supply? So what? What's wrong with somebody getting what they can, if they can in order to plan for their future? Nothing's stopping you from doing the same thing. I work hard to get primers, you can too.

    I can see getting a little frustrated at people who buy them with the specific purpose of scalping them, but hey, it's a free country, it's a capitalist economy. It's not our place to stop them. Just beat them to the store if you want them so badly.

    Maybe you should have gotten there 15 minutes earlier. Or maybe worked a little harder in finding them over the last 6 months. It hasn't been that hard, it just takes a little patience. You KNOW there's a shortage, yet you try to walk into a store to buy 100 primers you need for THAT day? That's YOUR fault, not the guy who happened in before you.

    I have right at about 10,000 primers right now. I've picked them up here and there over the last 6 months. 5k just came in from Midway last week. I've shot half that many in the same time period. I'd be happy to share them at cost with any of my friends. I've given a couple hundred to my brother. Who are these people who won't share? Do you KNOW them, or are you just making assumptions? I load a lot, I shoot a lot, and I didn't have access to any stores, deals, information, or methods that you don't also. I'm in a position to shoot however much I feel like because I've made the effort. You could be too.
     
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    Gryf, it's not about "redistributing primers" it's about the fact that while things are tough people need to just relax and QUITE buying up EVERYTHING so that this supply problem might quite. Look, when you're not depriving 5 reloaders behind you of shooting 2 hundred a range session, once a month, so that you can have 10k primers or each kind, then fine, have 10k. When things are hard like this guys, share a little bit. It's not that hard.
     
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    Some of you guys seem to be forgetting that some of us need more than one kind of primer. I need Regular and Magnum in large pistol and small pistol as well as large rifle. This means that if I have a whopping 5k primers, that may only be enough for 1,000 or less of one type of primer. Now consider that some of us shoot a lot of different calibers. I could load up 5k primers and not have more than 250 of any given load.
     
  17. JCisHe

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    Gryf, I'm not railing against you. Look, I too need rifle and pistol primers but I don't need 6,400 SPP's. Do you get what I'm saying?
     
  18. 1858rem

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    not necessarily people taking all the primers, manufacturers are trying to keep up with demand and loaded ammo is priority #1, so untill manfg's catch up its gonna be scarce, as im sure someone else has previously mentioned.
     
  19. USSR

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    Quit your whining, JCisHe. Next thing you know, Obama will want to make you the primer Czar.;)

    Don
     
  20. Gryffydd

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    But neither is finding your own primers! Call your local stores, find out when they take deliveries, stop by on you lunch hour some times, stop by after work some times. Set up in-stock notifications at Midway, Grafs, Natchez, etc.
    It's very simple. Inventory = Demand During Lead Time + Safety Stock*. It took me 3 months to get my hands on large pistol primers, so I bought enough to last me another 3-5 months (and enough to dilute the hazmat charge). It's just common sense.
     
  21. JCisHe

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    Manufacturer's are running 24 hours a day and they can't keep up because people are BUYING EVERYTHING that could just sit on the shelf until the next range session.

    Who needs 10k rounds? 6,400 SPP's? I mean come on 1858, can't you see this isn't just a supply issue? It's a supply issue because people are buying and buying and buying. One poster said, "I'm looking forward to the estate sales of all these hoarders." And he's right. Folks are gonna die fully stocked with the stuff they deprived us of today. You watch.
     
  22. Gryffydd

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    That's fine. By all means, don't buy 6,400 SPPs. Just don't complain about people who do need them. Your needs don't equal others needs, nor do you get to decide what other people "need."
    I don't mean "you" personally, just the general idea.
     
  23. JCisHe

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    Gryf,

    WHO NEEDS THEM? Are you going to be staving off the united states armed forces soon? Some other foreign military? What about the OP? I mean come on. Beside, I've got 400 primers and about 500 loaded rounds. I'm good for 2 months before I need to start looking. What I'm saying is... it doesn't matter. Obviously folks would rather hoard than share.
     
  24. Gryffydd

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    They deprived you of nothing. You had the exact same opportunity to buy primers that they did.
     
  25. 1858rem

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    cool it or this will be locked soon enough
     
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