Where can't you carry in your state?

As you would imagine, here in New Jersey the Governor is reacting to the SC decision as the end of civilization. Murphy has asked lawmakers to send him a bill that would bar guns in places with a “high density of people,” such as stadiums, arenas, amusement parks, bars and restaurants where alcohol is served, and public transit.

He said the proposal should also cover places with “vulnerable populations,” such as daycare and child care centers, hospitals, health care centers, nursing homes. Plus, he said, it should protect places where governmental and First Amendment-protected activities occur, such as government buildings, polling stations, courthouses, and police stations.

I was wondering what restrictions currently exist in the more gun friendly states. Thanks!

 

SC prohibits carry in government buildings, school property, medical facilities, churches (except with the consent of the pastor), and public transportation (of which there is precious little) Carry in establishments that serve alcohol is permissible as long as you do not imbibe. Naturally, Post Offices and other Federal facilities are off limits. Private businesses cam prohibit carry on their property, but few do.

 

Courthouses, all government buildings, libraries and bars, to name a few. Also, any business that doesn't want you to.

 

Along with the usual courthouses, post offices and school (K-12) properties, we can't legally carry on Idaho's college and university campuses without an Idaho "Enhanced" Concealed Carry License. That's one of the reasons my wife and I completed the required 8-hour class and got our licenses even though Idaho had sort of become a "constitutional carry" state by that time - because we still have ties with Idaho State University, and end up on campus there every once in a while.
The other reason we went ahead and got our licenses is because having a concealed carry license in Idaho (whether it's the "Standard" OR the "Enhanced" version) makes gun purchases from FFL dealer a little easier - there's no phone-in background checks if you have a concealed carry license in Idaho.

 

Not surprising that NJ is scrambling to craft new laws that will make it virtually impossible to carry. When you throw in a law that bans firearms in a “high density of people”, you are covering most of the state. Don’t think they’ll let you drive through these ambiguous density areas while carrying either.

 

This is the correct answer.

For my state that mainly entails govt buildings and schools for the most part.

 

Nebraska:
Bars (defined as having 50% or more business selling alcoholic beverages)
Law Enforcement station or office;
Prison or jail;
Courtroom or courtroom building;
Polling place during a bona fide election;
Meeting of the governing body of a county, public school district, municipality, or other political subdivision;
Meeting of the Legislature or a committee of the Legislature;
Financial institution;
Professional or semiprofessional athletic event;
Building, grounds, vehicle, or sponsored activity or athletic event of any public, private, denominational, or parochial elementary, vocational, or secondary school, a private postsecondary career school, a community college, or a public or private college, junior college, or university;
Place of worship; (has certain exceptions by organizational - usually local congregation)
Hospital, emergency room, or trauma center;
Political rally or fundraiser;
Place or premises where the person, persons, entity, or entities in control of the property or employer in control of the property has prohibited permit holders from carrying concealed handguns into or onto the place or premises; (requires posting sign with details).
Place where the possession or carrying of a firearm is prohibited by state or federal law;

I would consider these 'normal' places. My demurrer is this applies ONLY to those who obey the law and does not prevent any scofflaw or villain from being armed.

 

Texas is like that already. K through 12 schools are off limits, too. As is anyplace that wishes to put up the usual Texas 30.05, 30.06, and 30.07 signage. There's more I'm leaving out, simply because I don't want to look it all up right now.

 

In Utah, don’t need a permit to carry but there are places you cannot carry, described as the “new law” below.

I have a permit, and thus I can carry just about everywhere, including schools.

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Utah's list of prohibited places started out kind of large, something like Murphy's proposals. Gradually, as the populace got used to the idea of concealed carry, and realized that lawful carry did not "make blood run in the streets", legislators began eliminating the silliest of these restrictions, one-by-one. In coming years, NJ residents will gradually begin to learn that carrying a concealed gun in public does NOT equal "bad guy with a gun".

Cops will, too.

This will take a while, because of the long tradition in NJ of fearing the gun. A sizeable number of citizens will have to exercise their carry rights to encourage this process. Every cop who has a tiny sigh of relief when a driver in a traffic stop provides a carry permit, and everyone who makes the news for properly defending himself with a carry gun and who is reported to have a carry permit hastens this process.

What has Murphy proposed in terms of reciprocity? If allowed, citizen and cop contact with carriers from other states can help, particularly now, while this process is just beginning.

 

Thank you, all. I appreciate the information. Population density does work against us, as well as a low percentage that own firearms. It will take time, but it's something I never thought I would see in my lifetime. Thanks again.

 

Since you're in the Pinelands, (I'm in Ocean County) you are probably in a gun friendly county, 8 in the state have declared themselves "Sanctuary Counties" and some individual towns as well. The Court was pretty clear that simply being crowded was not a legitimate reason for a ban. Common sense places like courts, government buildings, schools, voting places and hospitals are and will remain off-limits. Ocean county dealers/instructors are gearing up for qualifying once the exact requirements are sent down.

 

High school, professional and college sporting events. And the 51% rule, businesses that get more than half of their income from on-premises sale of alcohol. Hospitals and nursing homes and polling places during elections or early voting.

 

Bars are off limits here in NM. Strange thing is that you can carry a gun onto school property as long as it has no ammo. A ball peen hammer would be preferable.

 

Actually, if it isn't posted as a gun free zone here in Texas then it isn't a gun free zone.
Even the local city hall only bans open carry... .

 

For those of us who might not grasp nuance and prefer to not presume, can you clarify exactly what this means?

 

You are also required to notify a homeowner you are armed before entering their residence.

 

That's the way I look at the carry problem. I carry anywhere I want except for places that check to see if I'm carrying with metal detectors. Everywhere else is just suggesting that I not bring firearms into their place. Those "No Guns" stickers don't carry the weight of law around here, the most that they can do is tell you to leave & bar you from coming back in. If you do return it they will get you for trespassing. I would rather be barred for life from a place than dead.

 

i live in cal usa just about every thing.

 

That's a new one on me

 

In MI a legal weapon may not be carried into any area that a criminal may think is a safe spot to attack.

 

SECTION 23-31-225. Carrying concealed weapons into residences or dwellings.

"No person who holds a permit issued pursuant to Article 4, Chapter 31, Title 23 may carry a concealable weapon into the residence or dwelling place of another person without the express permission of the owner or person in legal control or possession, as appropriate. A person who violates this provision is guilty of a misdemeanor and, upon conviction, must be fined not less than one thousand dollars or imprisoned for not more than one year, or both, at the discretion of the court and have his permit revoked for five years."

This requirement carries the force of law. It is often overlooked and creates a legal and moral/ethical issue for CWP holders such as realtors, electricians, plumbers, painters, etc. who go into private residences on a regular basis. It's details like this that fostered my objection to South Carolina eliminating the minimum number of hours required for the CWP class. Too many instructors now rush through the training process. I would wager if you polled current CWP holders in South Carolina you would get a high percentage of responses similar to Big Al's.