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Where does the "90 per cent support expanded background checks" number come fro

Discussion in 'General Gun Discussions' started by ArcherandShooter, Apr 17, 2013.

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  1. ArcherandShooter

    ArcherandShooter Member

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    I keep getting that number thrown up at me and would love to have solid facts with which to refute it, if possible.

    Can anyone point me in the right direction?

    Thanks
     
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    I was wondering this myself. And I'd swear I just heard Obama, in his speech after the gun bill was defeated, say it was 97%
     
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    The statistic is likely true, but the question was probably nothing like they say.
     
  6. Gottahaveone

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    It is 97% if you take into account all 57 states :evil:
     
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    I bet the vast majority of the people support term limits but do ya think the senate will ever make an issue about it?
     
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    Again, the truth is in how the questions are asked. Lots of respondents have no idea what current laws are, or what the different shades of 'background check' there are (obviously there are many, from the Coburn web-access-to-NICS take to the Schumer no-private-sales-allowed version).

    So, if you look at the Slate article I linked above, you'll see that the police survey they are having a cow about asks the background check question two different ways and it gets two significantly different answers.
     
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    It is all in the way the questions are worded. I'm sure 90% of Americans are wanting gun violence curbed. I know I do. Every time some nutcase pulls one of these stunts It makes us all look bad. But when you understand the methods they want to use far less than a majority want gun control.
     
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    MAJORITY has spoken

    We the people have spoken through our representatives,they understood EXACTLY what we wanted and what they NEEDED to do to stay in office.

    NOW --- remember all that voted against your wishes and FIX IT NEXT ELECTION.

    I am a life member of the NRA and a 'few' other pro gun organizations [ aka CIVIL RIGHTS ! ] and no one has voiced the opinions that the prez and all his talking heads are espousing.

    I dare them to actually take a REAL poll or how about a vote.

    then the numbers would scare the 'you know what' out of all politicians.
     
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    Their A$$
     
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    Honest question here - is there any sort of nationwide census carried out in the US? And if so, would it be possible to poll via that?
     
  16. JFrame

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    Leftists seem to be prone to pulling numbers out of their respective arses.

    During the "health care" debates of 2009, I recall going to town hall meetings where such folk paraded around with "hand-made" signs that said 72/75/76/79 percent of all Americans favored Obamacare. They couldn't even agree on a number. They just scrawled figures that looked good.

    I'm sure it's something similar with the UBC figure.


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    We just did a census a few years ago. They try and avoid questions like that and keep the questions to about who lives in that house.
    The main problem is that any question asked about this needs to have an explanation that in order to do UBC's we would need a national registry. This would change the polls significantly.
     
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    There is not a single issue that you can get 90% of people to agree on.
     
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    A drug addict stabbed a woman to death in a boarding house just one block from my apartment in 2004. In 2006 he beat two people to death in their home.

    Just recently two home invaders stabbed a disabled Iraq War vet for his pain meds.

    I have a wheelchair ramp on my front porch for my disabled wife that amounts to posting "pain meds inside".

    I don't worry about gun violence; I worry about violent people, and I worry about Chicago-style gun control spread nationally legally depriving me and my wife of defensive weapons.

    90% of the public might like the idea of having universal background checks, but a lot of that support comes from people confused by that 40% stat hammered again and again. And from those unfamiliar with the details of the bill.

    MAIG: "40% of all gun sales are by unlicensed private dealers."
    Chorus: "40 percent of gun sales take place at the gunshows"
    NSPOF: 13% of gun acquisitions from private citizens selling used guns, 3% from swaps or trades, 19% from gifts, 5% from inheritances. Total 40% gun acquisitions not from licensed dealers but scarcely for sources that deserve to be labeled "unlicensed dealers": dealing w/o an FFL is a felony.
    NSPOF: All gun show plus fleamarket gun acquistions togetehr were four percent of all gun acquisitions.
    Bureau of Justice state inmate survey: among armed criminals all gun show plus fleamarket gun acquistions together were 1.7 percent of crime guns.

    The media have even re-circulated the debunked 4 June 2011 video from Adam Gadahn, "the American al-Qaeda" (Adam Pearlman from California who has been in Pakistan since at least 1998), claiming jihadists could buy machineguns at US gun shows without ID. It was a lie when Gadahn told it. It is a lie when it is repeated.
     
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    This.
     
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    Twisted polling. As my late great uncle Ed said in polling I get you the TRUTH OR WHAT YOU WANT TO HEAR. The anti gun folks wanted polls that represents their dream and Not Reality.

    Today the people won.
     
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    There's no way you can get a "90% of the public" with a pole of only 1000 people...statistics just won't compute for me. For our population that's, what 0.00000333% of the population? Demographics cannot be sampled with that small of test group. BS is right and the POTUS is still using the 20-year old (pre-NICS) poll for his 40% of guns sold without background checks.

    Sure it's a win today, but I'm still sick with the mentality of the left. The war is long from over and most likely never will be; stay vigilant!

    ROCK6
     
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    Researchers James Wright & Peter Rossi found that when knowledge of existing gun laws was tested, poll results showed that that the less a person knew about existing laws, the more they supported more gun control. Those who showed knowledge of existing gun laws, were less likely to support more gun control.
     
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    Obama and Biden think that if you keep repeating a lie, it becomes the truth.
     
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    That is their only hope on this issue.
     
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