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Where is all the ammo?

Discussion in 'General Gun Discussions' started by Gary O, Apr 19, 2013.

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  1. Ignition Override

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    The gun show last weekend had plenty of it. The prices seemed to attract few buyers.
    The people who are buying ammo right now in order to Try to make a real profit are likely to get burned.

    Hordes of new shooters who soon realize what happened this week in the US Senate will finally think about it, and realize that there is no reason to panic.

    Some profit with speculation but many lose. Days ago Gunbroker had 30 pages of .22LR ammo. The first two pages had 0 bids on many entries (other than seller prices) and these pages will be the first to hit the deadlines, then be recycled for free. Zero bids, over and over....:D
     
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  2. jmace57

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    Yeah, but the IWB holsters are really uncomfortable!
     
  3. Vector

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    Maybe shortage was not the best word since it implies none what so ever. I am talking about the ability to purchase anything at all vs. limited supplies. So when the shelves are still empty because none seems to be in the pipeline, why is the ramped up production not making it to the local stores shelves?

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  4. offcenter

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    Shortage vs. hoarding

    I don't care what people want to call it. It has been about 5 years since I could walk into a local retail outlet and buy a choice of at least 1 each of 9mm, 40 s&w and 38 special. Sure I could go to a gun store and they would at least have hollow points but Walmart and Academy started having major holes in their inventory about 5 years ago in my part of the country. Now for 6 months I haven't seen any 22 on the shelves or anything else with regularity and since the first of the year the slots on the shelves that I check have just been empty. I get really tired of hearing about this "new" problem when I have been working my weekend shooting around the shortage for 5 years.
     
  5. BSA1

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    That's sad. What country do you live in?
     
  6. Jim Mac

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    just left walmart, pretty much bare shelves except for tula 7.62x39. I got 3 boxes and wife bought me 3 boxes. $17 even for 60 rounds. jim
     
  7. ssyoumans

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    Dropped by a Walmart in NE georgia this afternoon. They have adopted a 1 box/person rule. First I've seen of that. However they did have 100 packs of 40 S&W and 20 rd boxes of Tula 7.62x39.
     
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    I was in my LGS and they had 130 or so boxes of .223 55grn FMJ Independence ammo along with 50 or so boxes of another brand for 11.99 a box. No one was scooping any up. Things do seem to be loosening up a bit but its going to take a while
     
  9. 788Ham

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    I'll have to second that! We used to have some pretty good LGS around that kept shelves stocked, maybe not full, but they had ammo. I quit even looking when they started the hoarding craze, just stay home and reload now.
     
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  11. Alizard

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    Becauser demand has increased so much due to the blind panic stampede that the "pipeline" can not possibly come close to filling the demand. The typical consumption scenario is that most shooters buy a couple of boxes of ammo a month when they go shooting. Now they all want to buy 5000 rounds to "stock up" and the production capacity can't possibly fill that.

    There are also government contracts being filled which go to the head of the line but we have no way of knowing what % of total ammo output is being eaten up by that since they obviously are not going to admit to them.

    Add to that the speculators scooping up ammo to scalp at high prices and that pretty much tells you where the ammo is going.
     
  12. justice06rr

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    The reason you still see empty shelves is that demand is still very high--higher than already implemented increase in productions.

    Combine the hoarders, preppers, new shooters, along with LE, and your normal shooters and the supply is never going to catch up until at least close to the end of 2013.

    As a personal example I used to stock less than a couple of hundred rounds total last year with the guns I own. After Newton, I have a couple of thousand rounds. I'm not a prepper or gun nut by any means but I have increased my ammo stock about 10x
     
  13. Prince Yamato

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    It's trickling in the local shops...

    What we need is some Eastern European country to pick up the slack. I'd be shocked if Romania or Bulgaria wasn't tooling up to come to our relief (and make a huge profit).
     
  14. Ignition Override

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    We have tons of it, on TN Armslist.

    But you might need to pay these "free capitalists" $65 for a 555 Win. box, $125 for 500 Rem. "Thunderslugs", $250 for 4 x 525 boxes of Federal .22LR.

    Only a rigged market allows some of them, or others to 'visit' unscrupulous Walmarts at 0700 while other people must go to work.
    Even those of us who planned far ahead see it for what it is.

    In contrast, the WalMart near us on Hwy 64 sets out their ammo at random times, in order to help create more of a free market.
     
  15. Comrade Mike

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    I'm just doing my best to wait it out. Powder and primer are trickling back in slowly. 6.5 bullets are everywhere so ill just shoot my Swedish Mauser more.

    I'm thankful I only have one .223 because I absolutely refuse to pay more than .35 a round at most for bulk 5.56.

    The hoarders will run out of money and credit eventually.

    I didn't think I could hate Lanza any more than I did, because of that <deleted> we have to live with all this for at least another year.
     
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    I had a job across the street from the Sevierville Bass Pro Shops today, so I went in just to see what they had in stock. In pistol ammo, they had 7 boxes of .45 LC cowboy loads for almost $40 per 50, and 9 boxes .22 WMR birdshot. That was it: no other pistol ammo, period.

    They did have various .270, 30-06, .300 Win Mag, 7mm, and several other less common calibers going for $1.50 per round and up. There was absolutely no .308, .223/5.56, or 7.62x39 available at any price.

    There wasn't a single box of .22 LR available, either.

    The good news is they did have plenty of shotgun rounds, but 12ga. 00 was nearly $1.00 a round and up.

    I have never seen anything like this before. It's one thing to have to pay a little extra to be able to go out and shoot, but it's another thing entirely when you can't even buy a box of ammo to try out your new purchase from the big box sporting goods store.

    I installed a Ghost Rocket in my G21 last week, and felt bad about shooting a box of once cheap UMC to try it out, because I can't even replace it at this point in time without paying quadruple what it cost me, if I can find any .45 ACP at all.
     
  17. Oklacoyotekiller

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    Im begining to wonder if it will ever end. Seems like everything that comes out of dc starts the panic back up just when it seems to be dying down.:(
     
  18. Chevelle SS

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    In my basement :D
     
  19. Oklacoyotekiller

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    Can i come shop in your basement? :)
     
  20. 45_auto

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    Sure, you just have to pay my "Unpreparedness" tax on every round you buy.

    It's currently 50 cents per round on rimfire ammo and a dollar per round on centerfire. ;)
     
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    Lets say your post explains away me wondering why the shelves stay completely empty despite increased production.
    How do you explain why I and others here never get a whiff at a box or two of ammo, yet all these other people you cite for the shortages manage to buy every single box :confused:

    Either the rest of us have the worst luck in the world, or these other folks must be camping out for days like they are waiting for concert tickets to buy everything before we can get there.

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  22. 12many

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    I was in an LV, NV gun store yesterday and they had an AR15 Windham for $1250 and two AKs (don't know price . . . I don't buy commy guns:D) Also had 38 special, 17 HMR, 44 Mag, some long colt, lots of various rifle and shot shells. Guess what, they had 30-06. Good enough for grandpa . . .

    No 9mm, 22, or .223. Said they had some yesterday but sold out.

    It is getting better.
     
  23. MAKster

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    I wonder if any of these people watch TV or read newspapers. The attempts to enact a new AWB, mag ban, universal background checks are DEAD. It's over people. We won. There is no reason to keep going to Walmart at 6 am to hoard ammo.
     
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    I'm getting a good laugh at the "speculars" now. Since the Senate fail to pass any new gun laws the panic is making noticeable signs of easing.

    At the gunshop I work at, we've had several calls and walk in's since last week from those enterprising capitalists trying to sell us ammo. One joker called yesterday offering to sell us 550 round bulk pack .22lr. He asked me how much I would pay for 16 boxes, in which I asked him how much he wanted for them. As soon as he said "Well, at the gunshow they were going for..." I told him to come up with price and that we don't pay gunshow prices. We would rather be sold out than to gouge our customers like that.
     
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    That's $12 for a box of 20 that should cost no more than $7
     
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