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Where's the trash can?

Discussion in 'General Gun Discussions' started by PT1911, Sep 17, 2009.

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  1. PT1911

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    SO, everyone has seen and likely commented on the posts asking about the best ammunition, the best gun designs and the ammunition that is likely to just fade away... (cough 45 GAP cough)....

    So, I was wondering what is the most outdated and unnecessary firearm design?

    To go a step farther, what design could the world have gone without?

    In all fairness, I have no idea. There are so many models out there that I wouldnt know where to start..

    So, what do you guys/gals think?
     
  2. Snowdog

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    Outdated? Well, in an age of Keltec P32s/P3ATs, Ruger LCPs, NAAs and aluminum/scandium/whatever-framed snubnose revolvers from various makes, I don't personally have much use for a derringer, though I'm sure others might. It's a personal preference is all.
     
  3. doc2rn

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    Mossin Nagant, Nambu, Jennings, Davis, High Point, and anything that ends in Foooooortaaaaaaay.
     
  4. PT1911

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    Actually derringer would have to go at the top of my list too... there are just so many better options available out there nowadays... I agree 100%.... though I know they have their fans.. which I am sure will chime in eventually. They are too heavy for their size, capacity is too low, trigger is terrible, accuracy is terrible, and it takes two hands to cock the thing.
     
  5. c919

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    Pretty friggin' silly in my book, but I guess it's cool novelty if you have run out of other guns to buy....... Which I don't see on my personal horizon.
     
  6. THE DARK KNIGHT

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    The Chauchat?
     
  7. chiggerbyt

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    A 410 revolver. But I'll let others be the judge of that. JMHO


    Edit to add:
    The "Polychoke,Truchoke,&Lyman choke" systems. Although they worked well they have been replaced completely by internal, interchangeable screw in choke styles giving the barrel a normal appearance.
    The "boss" or similar systems of variable harmonic vibration control for barrel accuracy seems to be going the way of the Dodo.
    Throw in those neat old peep sights on .22's and most high power rifles used for casual shooting or hunting use also.
     
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    anything chambered in 25 ACP
     
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    Hello friends and neighbors // +1 for derringer

    I looked around at options ( light weight J-frames ) and sold my single shot .45/.410 Lienad to help fund purchase.
    Not usless,(It was ample protection for he price) but with only one shot, basic safety, and about as heavy as sp101, I needed an upgrade.
     
  11. 9mm+

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    Not sure I would throw the derringer in the junk heap...those 22 magnum ones are Da Bomb! ;) Ok, just kidding, just kidding...
     
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    Those single action revolvers are pretty old fashioned, you have to cock them for every shot you know. Send them to me and I'll get rid of them for ya.
     
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    Rabble rouser!
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    It sounds stupid to lump so many guns into a trash category for no reason other then I do not own them or like them now that I have read it. I apologize.

    For the record... I do own an AR, and I am saving for a 1911, but I love my Hi-Points, Keltecs, Nagant revolver and other valued guns.
     
  17. Legionnaire

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    Not "outdated," but certainly "unnecessary" are the big, Barrett-looking muzzle breaks on 12 gauge shotguns. Silly if you ask me. And +1 on the derringer.
     
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    The CZ75 and its clones are great pistols. And they're still being copied.

    But I think their trigger mechanisms and generally heavy weights make them dinosaurs not unlike the 1911s. Would I rely on either to save my life? Sure (in the case of a 1911 - with the sometimes necessary tweaks). Would I buy one? Not at today's prices (well, maybe a basic SA Milspec or a basic original CZ75).

    The CZ75 just doesn't excite me the way it did 10 years ago.
     
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    to say the mosin nagant is unnecessary design or something that the world could have gone without is, in my opinion, a rather ignorant statement.

    The Nagant revolver, though I have one and really like it, IS rather silly and I do not see where the world would be significantly different if it (or its specialized round) were not invented.
     
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    Oh, c'mon...surely, everyone would want to experience the great sound from that Mossberg Road Blocker! ;) Ouch! Ouch! Ouch!
     
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    It would REALY suck to have that pen explode in your pocket.
     
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    i'll agree that derringers are outdated, but i wouldn't agree that they were unnecessary at the time. they were really the only thing that some folks (especially women) could effectively conceal back in the day.

    but today there are just so many superior options that are just as small and lighter with higher capacity.
     
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    As internet sales get bigger and provide strong competition to the gun shop, perhaps the next thing in the trash is the village idiot at the gun counter. Salesmen at the counter will have to know their stuff or die. Good salesmen will survive.

    I don't believe gun shops will disappear, we'll always need them. But the days are numbered for hiring idiots to man the counter.
     
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    The market weeds out guns with no demand. It's hard to find a full-size pistol in .32, though 75 years ago that not uncommon.
     
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