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Which .17 HMR?

Discussion in 'Rifle Country' started by Angleiron, Jan 7, 2010.

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  1. Angleiron

    Angleiron Member

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    From what I have been reading, this is a pretty cool little caliber rifle to have for varmint and fun shooting. The 2 rifles that I am looking at are the CZ 453 Varmint, and the Weatherby Mark XXLL. The Weatherby is about $200+ more than the CZ, but from what I can see it has much nicer wood and has the Anshutz factor.

    Anyone have either of these rifles? Any feedback in general?
     
  2. sprocket3

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    If that CZ comes with the Set Trigger like the 527 I don't think you can go wrong. You can't get a better gun for the money. I think they have stock options in most model if you want something a little fancy.
     
  3. DMZ

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    I have the CZ 452 in .17HMR. The Varmint model, is a heavy barreled American and has an adjustable trigger, but comes without the iron sights, which are some of the best to ever adorn a rimfire rifle.
     
  4. hub

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    I don't think you would be disappointed with the CZ if you wanted to save a few bucks. The 453 is a awesome rifle and the wood is nice, maybe not as nice as the Weatherby but it is nice.

    Yes the 453 varmint does come with a single stage set trigger.

    Yes the Weatherby does have awesome looking wood and the Anschutz 64 action but for that price you could buy a Anschutz.

    Since you listed the CZ varmint I'm assuming your looking for a heavy barreled rifle right? Have you looked into any Anschutz rifles in .17hmr? I really wanted a MPR in .17hmr but ended up going with a Savage BTVS only because of my budget. I do love the Savage and it shoots like a laser in .17hmr but I still want a MPR so I may have to get one in .22lr someday. The price has seemed to have went up on them though, when I was looking to buy Bud's had them for around $700 or a little less in .17hmr if I remember right. Any way just some suggestions I think they are all are fine rifles you would be happy with any of them.

    http://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/product_info.php/cPath/36_751/products_id/54904

    http://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/product_info.php/cPath/36_751/products_id/40114
     
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    The CZ 453 is the version with the single set trigger, just like the 527 and 550 series rifles.

    I have my heart set on a 453 Varmint in .22lr. I really like the idea of the .17hmr, but I like the cheapness of .22lr ammo even more. I want something as close to my 550 hunting rifles as possible that I can practice with A LOT without beating up my shoulder or spending a fortune on ammo. Plus the .22lr won't heat up the barrel as much as any centerfire so I'll be able to shoot a lot of rounds before having to let it cool.
     
  6. GunsAmerica Fan

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    I would buy the CZ. But before you buy, check out the Mini Sharps from Chiappa. I shot one at end of the trail and it's really cool.
    Here is a totally unrehearsed GunsAmerica TV video that we made on the rifle.
    http://www.gunsamerica.com/video/player.aspx?Channel=15&vid=114

    I would so buy one of these before a run of the mill rifle.
     
  7. rangerruck

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    the cz is awesome, and the single set trigger is amazing. That being said, if you have never shot an Annie, and that Weatherby is deff an annie 64, and you have never felt the trigger of a factory annie; there just is nothing like it, and this from a dude who loves cz's, and have a bunch. If you have the money, get the Weatherby, and you will understand why people who shoot annies, say there is no trigger like them in the world. If you don't wanna spend that money, get the CZ, and you will not be disappointed with it's trigger , or it's accuracy.
     
  8. TomADC

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    Before you buy either take a look at the Savage 93R17 I have a FV and its a tack driver.
    25 rounds at 100 yds.
    [​IMG]
     
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    +1
    I have the BV model.
     
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    Marlin 917VT
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  11. Dookie

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    Anschutz or anything else. Nope, go with the weatherby, or as mentioned, get an anschutz for cheaper. It will not have the nice wood but it will have the trigger. Not positive but I think the XXII does not have the nice Annie trigger.

    Try Champion shooters, they usually have the best prices. Gunbroker is also another option.

    If you can afford it always buy the best you can. CZ is nice but nowhere near the Anschutz. Savage is more comparable to CZ without the refinement and Savage has a better trigger, much better. Marlins shoot nice, so they have a good barrel and that is about it.
     
  12. Angleiron

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    The annie 64 seems to be about $200+ more than the weatherby from the prices that I have looked up. My first thoughts were to go with the .22, but I am liking the accuracy of the .17 HMR...and though the ammo is a bit more...not so much that it is a problem.

    Since this is going to be a fun rifle for the most part, spending almost $1K for such a rifle does not seem to make much sense. Seems to be a coin flip between the CZ, and the Weatherby.
     
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    ... and as an aside which I allways mention; you could get a mach2 rifle. You loose about 50 yds of trajectory to the hmr, but it is still a laser shot out to 150, with a 100 yd zero, and ammo is 1/3 the cost. Plus a mach 2 rifle will shoot 17 aguila rounds, which aren't as destructive as normal 17 cal rounds.
    So that way, if you like to keep skins, or not destroy meat, the 17 aggie round is a pretty nice alternative.
     
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    My wife has a CZ 452 American in .17 HMR with a Leupold 3x9. Deadly on ground squirrels and an excellent rifle. My .17 HMR is a NEF single shot with a 3.5x10 Leupold. Also a good rifle, but the trigger is not as good as the CZ. Used, it cost me about 1/3 of what I paid for the scope. Which every rifle you choose, you should put very good optics on it to get full benefit of the potential of the caliber. I have no personal experience with the Ruger in .17, but have heard negative things.
     
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    I've owned a variety of rifles in .17HMR but only kept two; An Anschutz M-1717, and Weatherby/Anschutz. I kept the Weatherby because it is so pretty and also nicely accurate and fun to shoot. For accuracy the M-1717 is tops because of super accurate, meadium heavy barrel, and it's built on Anschutz's top action. And the M-1717 also came with a nice looking, well figured wood stock with cut checkering. (see photos) The Savage was fairly accurate and worked well and I gave it to shooting pal who has done some good shooting with it. After shooting my CZ a few times I was happy to trade it for something else. As wisely noted by Coyote, a key to good accuracy performance is good optics.
     

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    If you are wanting the best and dont mind paying for it, take a look at the Anschutz or Cooper line of 17 HMR's.

    Here's my wife's Annie and I think it's almost as beautiful as she is.

    [​IMG]
     
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    I bought a slightly used 17hmr Savage 93R17 with black laminate stock. Sporter barrel. I cleaned the barrel, glass bedded the rifle and now it will shoot a ragged hole at 50 yds. Probably around an inch at 100 yds. Its the best rimfire I have ever owned. Oh, BTW you have to switch out the gawdawfull factory trigger though. I certainly don't think you have to blow Anschutz kind of money to go sub-moa with a nice 17HMR. I looked at the CZ but it was also needing some work (barrel floating for example) and when I saw that nice laminate CHECKERED stock on the Savage a very primal urge took over.
     
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    I'd agree with dubbleA - I'd get the real Anschutz or the Cooper with a high budget.

    But with a lower budget, I have the CZ 453 Varmint and am very very pleased with it. Accurate, and balances well. Of course, great (set) trigger, and very good (non-set) trigger.
     
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    While the .17HMR is an accurate round you are aware that no one makes any match grade .17hmr ammunition right? This might not be that big of a deal for you but if your after constant tiny little groups you may be disappointed because of the consistency of .17HMR compared to the widely available .22lr match ammo made by several different companies.
     
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    How cheap can you get the Weatherby, from what I have seen they look like $800+. How much will you be spending on a scope, rings, and base.

    Like I said before I was set on a Annie MPR but after thinking about the .17hmr is a niche rifle IMO. Yes they are nice but to me they are a little too much for small game like squirrels and not quite big enough for varmints and predators. Also like I stated before, is the ammo. I couldn't see paying that much for a rifle and scope in .17hmr (with my personal budget) at the time so I went with the Savage 93r17 BTVS model and I can't say I'm sorry I did, It looks pretty good and is amazingly accurate for what I paid. I bought mine from Dick's on a special, it was a combo with a cheap Simmons 8 point scope on top for $400. I took the Simmons off and put a Nikon Prostaff 3-9x40 on top and put the Simmons back on my back up slug gun. While neither the Savage or the Nikon is top of the line I think it will shoot with the best of them for a fraction of as much money.
     
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    $895 for the Anschutz 64 MPR
    $930 for the Weatherby XXII.
    At least locally.

    They also have the HM2 sporter for $750.00. A great in between the 22lr and the HMR.
     
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    SAV 93R17-BV 17HMR BLT BL/LAM HB AT
    $373.41 locally.
     
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    I picked mine up at Cabelas with Cabela's 17hmr scope for $329.
     
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    Savage 93R17TRR - Incredible rifle, though expensive!
     
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