Which .36?

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I turn 36 this winter. Yes it’s a long way off, but that just means there’s a long time to look at sales and try to stumble into a deal. I have been wanting to get into a black powder revolver for a while and although I have owned a few, I have only done so through trades and have quickly moved them on down the road because I didn’t want to mess with them and learn anything about them at that time. This year will be different. I want to get a .36 to shoot and enjoy. I know I won’t shoot it a whole lot, but I will shoot it enough to justify bypassing a brass frame and getting a steel frame because the way I look at life, I still have another 50 years or so to enjoy it. The only other thing I will say is that I WANT a trigger guard. The Remington Pocket is attractive, but I have spur trigger guns in other forms and will forego purchasing another one intentionally. Opinions on what to look at are great, experience is better. As much as I want to know what gun to chase, I also need the basics for figuring out what accessories to chase.

please and thank you in advance.
 
I bought an Uberti 1861 Colt Navy this past spring and I had an absolute blast with it at the range. I also think it is pretty enough to display in the house when it's not at the range. All you need for accessories are some basic cleaning gear (.38 brush, swab, pistol length cleaning rod, patches, Ballistol), a powder flask with the proper size spout that also serves as a measure, and a capper designed for a revolver. Easy!
 
If you are not in a hurry and dont mind used watch the pawn shops, yard sales, forum sales etc. Have found some really good deals over the years. For new I watch places on line and brick and morter stores for sales. Have saved doing that. Difference in cost well worth the wait.
 
Cant go wrong with an 1851 or 1861 navy in either Pietta or Uberti...i prefer pietta but any brand will sure make u happy. Great underappreciated gun and can be made to shoot weak loads or very hard hitting fast powerfull loads.
 
Well, the 1851 Navy is kind of the standard gun in that caliber. It's a favorite for many of us on this board.

The 1861 is also a tremendous gun, technologically superior to the 1851. The look is different, as is the grip. I would handle both, if you have the opportunity, to see which one feels better to you.

I have a real soft spot for the '62 Police model. It is smaller than the Navy guns, more along the lines of a modern revolver, and is a real delight to the hand and eye.

The 1858 Remington is also a very good choice for the newbie. In my experience they normally are more-or-less ready to go out of the box, which can't really be said for the Colt pattern guns. And they can be had from the factory with usable sights - even adjustable ones, if you want. The downsides are the small diameter cylinder pins, which can gum up more easily than the Colt's, and the grip shape, which many find a little odd and uncomfortable. Again, a good idea to try before you buy.

Beyond gun choice, you will encounter two main brands: Pietta and Uberti. In my opinion both are about the same quality and the same price (although the Piettas are more often found at fire sale prices from the big retailers), and both usually need a bit of "fixing" out of the box. Ubertis are well known for having a too-short arbor. This is not the end of the world, especially if you shoot only occasionally, but really ought to be checked and fixed. Full details on the process are easily found with a search on THR.

Piettas have a reputation for cylinder bolts being too wide, as well as timing problems. Those are troubles which, if present, really need to be fixed before the gun is used. Again, not a huge deal, and lots of information to be found here and elsewhere. Pietta also sometimes takes some flak for not being "authentic", ie. producing models which never existed historically. This really bothers some people, but I'm not quite sure why. My personal quibble with Pietta is the way they write all over the guns with the brand, model, serial number, proof marks, or whatever else they can think up. And of course, there are lots of people who've gotten guns from both manufacturers and used them happily without ever needing to do anything at all to them!

Finally, you should be aware that the sights on these guns are, by today's standards, awful. With your young eyes you should be able to manage them, but it is a lot tougher than it should be, and most of these guns hit very high at "normal" handgun ranges. I normally file a dovetail for a blade front sight and cut the hammer "V" into a square notch. This makes the guns much more usable, but deeply offends a certain kind of shooter.

Anyway, sorry for the long post. I literally have nothing else to do, thanks to Governor Newsom!
 
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I have and use the 1851 Navy, it’s Confederate Clone the Griswold and Gunnison another Confederate clone the Spiller and Burr, the 1862 Police and a 1858 Remington Navy, Uberti by Navy Arms. I actually like the G&G for its looks.
The 36’s are nice, all of them, but they just don’t have that smoke and boom of a 44 chamber at full bore. ;)
 
The Pietta 1858 Remington .36 is built on the same size frame as their .44.
It's difficult to find it in the US with adjustable target sights.
IDK if EMF can order the target models or not, but they are sold in other countries. --->>> https://www.emf-company.com/store/pc/1858-REMINGTON-STEEL-SHERIFF-36-6-1-2-111p1177.htm
But AFAIK no other .36 will have target sights either.

The Remington 1858 .36 is probably the easiest to swap out extra cylinders with for quick reloading ,and also for loading off the frame if using a loading press.
RMC sells an inexpensive loading press that fits the 1858 Remington .36 & .44 cylinders for $34.99. --->>> https://rmcoxyoke.com/product/rmc-revolver-loading-stand/
There are more expensive loading presses but I'm just showing you the cheapest option besides making one yourself.
New extra .36 Remington cylinders can be more expensive and harder to find used than the .44's.
 
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Colt Metropolitan Police!!!
I have several 36 revolvers but this is the best shooter.
This is not the 5 shot Pocket Police but a 6 shot supposedly designed as a police side arm. All the design improvements of the 1860 but built for the 36 caliber.

My second choice would be the Remington in 36, but only if you can find one in the smaller frame size. As noted above.

Otherwise I would suggest the Colt Pocket Police.

IronHand
 
I really like the looks of the Colt Pocket Police/Pocket Navy .36 but the Pocket grip is just too danged small for me. My vote is for any steel frame version of the Colt 1851 .36, Confederate or not.

I have 8 different Pietta Navy "type" .36 revolvers, and two are brass framed (G&G and S&G). My favorite is the Pietta Leech & Rigdon .36, a parts gun I created as Pietta does not market this one. I really like the part round/part octagonal barrel and smooth cylinder.

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Enjoy your .36!

Regards,

Jim
 
Ironhand - Pietta marketed a chopped 1861 as the “Police”. That’s not a Colt designation. It’s a very nice Italian 1861 with a 5.5” barrel and except for that shortened barrel is an 1861, exactly. Colt didn't do that but it's still a handsome little piece.
 
Ironhand - Pietta marketed a chopped 1861 as the “Police”. That’s not a Colt designation. It’s a very nice Italian 1861 with a 5.5” barrel and except for that shortened barrel is an 1861, exactly. Colt didn't do that but it's still a handsome little piece.

Thus my inclusion of the qualifier "supposedly" in the description.
I have heard that the gun might not be historically correct but I don't really care. It's still a great gun.

IronHand
 
Well the easiest to find would be my second choice the 1851 Colt Navy. One belongs in everyone's collection. Many will agree that it is arguably the most naturally pointing handgun ever made.
However, my first choice as a favorite .36 would be a Whitney Revolver, but you're going to likely spend some time digging one up. You just might find the search worthwhile.
 
Ironhand - Pietta marketed a chopped 1861 as the “Police”. That’s not a Colt designation. It’s a very nice Italian 1861 with a 5.5” barrel and except for that shortened barrel is an 1861, exactly. Colt didn't do that but it's still a handsome little piece.

I have one of these. I got the new york metropolitan police revolver and it is one of my favorites. It comes with a half fluted cylinder. I also have an 1861 london sheriff... Both guns come with a 5.5 inch barrel.
 
The great thing about .36 cals is that you can shoot some bullets that match the weight of a .44 roundball...i have a few .36 cal custom conical molds that make bullets that weigh 140+ grains And have amazing performance. These bullets paired with an energetic powder such as Olde Eynsford, Swiss, 777 etc will make you one very powerful combination.
 
I didn't suggest a Colt, Remington or particular model. Own both and like different things about both. Logic gives Remington an edge over Colt open top in some ways. I usually pickup the open top instead because I like it better. Like shooting, plinking with 36 better than 44. Usually load well under full loads. For accuracy I shoot the Remington better, sights are better. Nice to have both.
 
WestKentucky...

Your choice of going .36 is very sound and symbolical. The good folks here have offered up some fine choices and deciding on which one is a lot of the fun.

I have several Piettas of both Colt and Remington army models and a Uberti Walker.
All have been mighty fine, but I give the nod to finish quality to the Uberti.

My Pietta ‘51 Navy is a late comer to the Black Powder family because I just had to have one.
I wish I had gotten it much sooner...! It is the most accurate shooter of the bunch and a joy to operate... not to mention cheaper to feed.

I would have to guess that you will be happy with whichever one you decide on... and don’t be surprised if you own a .44 or two or three before your 44’th birthday...!
 
WestKentucky

When I got back into black powder revolvers a few years ago I decided to go with a Pietta Remington New Model Navy. Got it for Christmas from Cabella's when they were still having their pre-holiday sale. I had a Navy Arms Remington New Model Army over thirty years earlier and liked it a lot. Just wanted to do something different this time around so I got the .36 caliber Navy model. Picked up a .38 conversion cylinder for it and it went right in with no fitting needed. If there's one thing I love about the Remington design it's the ease in which you can swap out cylinders!
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You made a good decision by asking for advice first. Continue to refer to this site(a couple others as well) even after you've made a choice. Just to add my two cents to the already mentioned excellent comments, your first gun should be a full size model such as the 51/61 Navy or Remington. These are generally more trouble free, repair parts are available(especially buying a new Uberti or Pietta) and there is a considerable amount of information due to everyone's past experience. The Pocket models--both Colt and Remington type--are a bit less forgiving, making them a good choice for those already experienced at the sometimes unique nuances of percussion pistols. These things are neat, and you may soon see why so many continue to enjoy them.
 
Ironhand - Pietta marketed a chopped 1861 as the “Police”. That’s not a Colt designation. It’s a very nice Italian 1861 with a 5.5” barrel and except for that shortened barrel is an 1861, exactly. Colt didn't do that but it's still a handsome little piece.

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Marstar in Canada seems to sell a selection of the more unusual Pietta creations. This one is actually a .44 cal. 6 shot, but the .36 just has a non-rebated cylinder.
Not that you can buy from them....
 
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Mr.old stumpy you bring up a great point. Other countries...especially in Europe..have more of a selection of models. I wish the american companies would sell them as well, ans im sure they would sell like hot cakes. Im sure a fan of the "gold rush" models and the 1858 new model navy stainless .36 and if they sold them here id buy immediately.
 
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