Which .45 ?
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msmp5
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I like this suggestion! Good potential for "home defense" and pretty darn fun - though expensive - to shoot..... assuming you live somewhere MG's are legal. Unfortunately, the OP did say he was looking for a pistol, and his budget was $600!! These days, one will pay a mnimum of 25 times that figure for the least expensive transferable Tommy Gun.
Hanzo581
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Well.....this is close but still over budget.
http://grabagun.com/auto-ord-1927a-1-dlx-pstl-10-5-50rd.html
rskent
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https://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog...21_43/products_id/76622/Glock+G21+Gen4+.45ACP
Here you go. Spent the extra $9.76.
Here you go. Spent the extra $9.76.
chaim
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Sub-$600 for a .45 that wasn't a 1911. I did make one such choice some years ago and bought a SIG P250 Compact. If I was to make that choice today, it might still be the P250 Compact, but it would probably be either a S&W M&P (if you don't like the trigger, get an Apex and still probably be under $600) or the SIG P320 Compact. Though, most likely I'd go with a 1911 (under $600 you can get a Citadel or RIA with some nice features, or spend quite a bit less and get a GI version with lots of money left for ammo).
If you like them, but don't want to buy one right now due to a particular action of the company, why not buy a used one? That money doesn't go to the company, it goes to a private person that owned it before (or to the gun store that bought it from the previous owner).
I just went through the process of looking for a full sized striker fired 45. I shot the ppq, g21, G41, m&p, Ruger American, xd, 320, and I'm sure I'm missing a couple. I ended up with a new p320 for 479 plus tax. I was between the 41, ppq, and the 320. The 41 was a bad fit ergonomically. The ppq and Sig both fit like a glove. I ended up with the 320 because I already had a 9mm version and it handled the recoil better in my hands. If you can deal with the 10 rd vs. 12 rd capacity I think you'll be pleased.
Hangingrock
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One could go with the S&W-45-Shield currently produced, or in the used market a Gen3 S&W4506-DA/SA, then there would be the SW99-45ACP (S&W-Walther venture) in the collector market because of its limited production numbers.
I've owned Kimbers but I'm a Glock guy. If you can get the 21SF or Gen4 to fit and it works go for it, it's a great shooter. They are just too big for my hands. I own a 30SF I shoot great. I've owned two M & P's and wouldnt' hesitate to recomend them in the full size for a nightstand gun. My only beef with the M & P is I don't believe the workmanship, ecspecially mags are as good as the Glock. The 21 I had was an amazingly soft shooter, better than my Kimbers for recoil and almost as good for accuracy.
Hanzo581
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If it's between those two PPQ all the way. Especially given the current rebate.
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fastbolt
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I'm a longtime 1911 owner/shooter, but I own other pistols chambered in .45 ACP.
Aside from an early KP90DC (stainless, decock-only P90), the only other metal .45's I own are a couple of S&W 3rd gen's (CS45 & original 4513TSW).
When it came time to consider owning a plastic .45, the only one that interested me enough to spend my own money on one was a M&P 45.
I didn't mind the USP45, G21 or even the briefly available SW9945 (I got to use one for a while that was on loan as a T&E gun). I just didn't like using them enough to spend my own money on one.
I rather liked the old P9S .45 I carried for a while, but it only had a little plastic. Parts availability and complexity of design (and lack of leather for off-duty use) eventually convinced me to get rid of it.
If I were going to start over, for full-size pistols I'd probably look closely at the Walther PPQ .45 and the M&P 45, and for a smaller one, the Shield 45. Maybe even a G36, as it has the most agreeable, slim and "short-ish" .45 grip frame, for me, among the Glock models.
Spending some rental range & trigger time with an assortment of them, using a variety of the type of .45 ammunition you would consider using, is probably a good way to begin research.
The increasingly stiff competition among makers of plastic pistols has started to flood the market with models.
None of them are going to be comparable (nor ought they be) to a nicely manufactured and assembled/fitted 1911, though.
FWIW, for a work-horse budget .45, which is admittedly out-of-production, the S&W M457 & M457S (stainless slide) were excellent, robust and reliable, no-frills traditional double action pistols (also referred to as DA/SA).
Aside from an early KP90DC (stainless, decock-only P90), the only other metal .45's I own are a couple of S&W 3rd gen's (CS45 & original 4513TSW).
When it came time to consider owning a plastic .45, the only one that interested me enough to spend my own money on one was a M&P 45.
I didn't mind the USP45, G21 or even the briefly available SW9945 (I got to use one for a while that was on loan as a T&E gun). I just didn't like using them enough to spend my own money on one.
I rather liked the old P9S .45 I carried for a while, but it only had a little plastic. Parts availability and complexity of design (and lack of leather for off-duty use) eventually convinced me to get rid of it.
If I were going to start over, for full-size pistols I'd probably look closely at the Walther PPQ .45 and the M&P 45, and for a smaller one, the Shield 45. Maybe even a G36, as it has the most agreeable, slim and "short-ish" .45 grip frame, for me, among the Glock models.
Spending some rental range & trigger time with an assortment of them, using a variety of the type of .45 ammunition you would consider using, is probably a good way to begin research.
The increasingly stiff competition among makers of plastic pistols has started to flood the market with models.
None of them are going to be comparable (nor ought they be) to a nicely manufactured and assembled/fitted 1911, though.
FWIW, for a work-horse budget .45, which is admittedly out-of-production, the S&W M457 & M457S (stainless slide) were excellent, robust and reliable, no-frills traditional double action pistols (also referred to as DA/SA).
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Sarsilmaz Sar K2 .45
https://www.cdnnsports.com/eaa-sar-k2-45acp.html#.WVqln-vys1I
It takes basically the same magazines as the Para Ordinance double stack 1911s. You can carry cocked and locked, but it is a double action if you want it. Inexpensive, too.
https://www.cdnnsports.com/eaa-sar-k2-45acp.html#.WVqln-vys1I
It takes basically the same magazines as the Para Ordinance double stack 1911s. You can carry cocked and locked, but it is a double action if you want it. Inexpensive, too.
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Not bad shooting either. Nice adjustable sights too! Not tritium... but you could probably find some.
Somewhat difficult to find holsters, but it can be done.
It isn't a 1911 trigger, but it really isn't a bad double action trigger. Actually... it is a pretty good double action trigger.
Somewhat difficult to find holsters, but it can be done.
It isn't a 1911 trigger, but it really isn't a bad double action trigger. Actually... it is a pretty good double action trigger.
Zerodefect
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Glock 41. Unfortunately LGS's are still gouging them a bit. Just under $700.
In between those two I'd recommend the Glock. Glock has a HUGE advantage in the aftermarket with loads of companies on line selling magazines, parts, and upgrades at highly competitive prices. It's also a nice shooter with all kinds of trigger mods available. You also could add a 30SF for carry (a great shooter) later and it handles the same mags. You can also buy 10mm bbl and mags for your 21 and you have a big critter defense gun for bear country.
JeeperCreeper
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^^ I agree with this...
Don't forget to check out the Jericho/Baby Eagle by Magnum Research/IMI/IWI
If you want striker, I'd look at the PPQ and M&P45. Or the super cheap Ruger SR45 from CDNN for $380.
Blkhrt13
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PX-4 Storm Beretta. The full size has a light mount. The rotating barrel reduces recoil. It has swapable
Backstraps. I'm getting one in 40 cal.
http://m14forum.com/handguns/183650-short-review-beretta-px4-storm-full-size-45-acp.html
Backstraps. I'm getting one in 40 cal.
http://m14forum.com/handguns/183650-short-review-beretta-px4-storm-full-size-45-acp.html
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One that comes in 9mm.
Wiseassery aside, for 600, I would get a CZ 97B, Glock, or used HK USP. It really depends on what you want if for. My only use for .45 would be if it were a collectible or quasi collectible, so I would spring for the USP.
Wiseassery aside, for 600, I would get a CZ 97B, Glock, or used HK USP. It really depends on what you want if for. My only use for .45 would be if it were a collectible or quasi collectible, so I would spring for the USP.
10 rounds isn't enough? It is .45 after all, tough to cram much more in a reasonably sized grip. I think 13 is tops that I have seen.
No such thing.
Taroman
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Another vote for the SAR K2 45.
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