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Which 7 guns from before 1950?

Discussion in 'General Gun Discussions' started by Dionysusigma, Jan 28, 2006.

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  1. Dionysusigma

    Dionysusigma Member

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    Well, I've been wondering about this for a while now--is it just me, or has everything gun-related that people tote as "the next Big Thing" really been around since the Korean War? Compact pistols and scandium-aluminum frames and polymer aside, I don't really think there is nothing much new. People introduced (IMO) silly calibers like the Short and Super Short Magnums, made minor modifications like evolving the P.38 into the PPK and eventually the Beretta 92FS, and unsuccessfully trying to modify designs that weren't really broken to begin with (such as Para Ordnance's LDA system or everyone's skeletonized 1911 triggers/hammers).

    So, my question is this--if you were limited to seven guns, not more than $1100 each, and were invented and in use before 1950, which would you have? Not heavily restricting criteria, I believe... but what "old technology" do you think would hold a candle to today's post-modern world? These five would have to cover all your bases--home defense, hunting, concealed carry, competition, plinking, teaching new shooters, etc. They wouldn't necessarily have to be made prior to 1950, but must be in appropriate specification (new-production Springfield M1 Garands in either .30-06 or .308 okay, as are Auto Ordnance 16" bbl Thompsons, etc.). NFA laws must be followed, so a full-auto, 8" bbl Sten or a true PPsH might not be feasible.

    Think of it as kinda like CAS, but guns from any country are allowed, and up to 1950. :)

    Mine:
    Springfield 1911A1 GI .45 ACP
    k.98 Mauser, 7.92x57mm
    AK variant, park'd with wood funiture, 7.62x39mm
    Winchester 1897, 12ga
    Colt 1903 Pocket, .32 ACP
    Kahr M1 Carbine, .30 Carb
    Whatever .22lr SA pistol existed at the time...

    What about y'all?
     
  2. hso

    hso Moderator Staff Member

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    The Win '97 is a hand biter. Now the Model 12 is it's sweeter natured sister and my preference.

    Garand

    BHP

    Swede Mauser over the K98, but why waste time with milsurps when there are lots of 1950 options for a fine mauser action sporter in a reasonable caliber to be built by a competent gunsmith. Heck, for $1,100 you could get a nearly perfect custom bolt gun built in any caliber you want.

    Here's the difficult part. It's 1950 and you can still buy machine guns without having to sell a kidney (not that they're any good for anything but pie in 1950 yet) so what do you get? Thompson? M2? Grease Gun? Sten? AK? Browning 50 cal. Nawww. Madsen M50, the finest subgun available.
     
  3. Erinyes

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    Hmm, interesting question, but I've always been partial to older designs.

    Browning High Power (CCW/Home defence)
    Springfield M1903A3 (Hunting)
    Semi-auto AK47 clone (Evil Rifle)
    Mosin Nagant 91/30 (Truck gun)
    M1 Carbine ('Cause you always need a carbine)
    Winchester 97 (Home defence)
    M1 Garand (I just want one)
     
  4. Wags

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    If so why did they get the reputation as a banana gun? Just curious.
     
  5. slopemeno

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    Stevens 520-30 pump shotgun.
     
  6. axeman_g

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    I am taking this a pre 50s gun purchased today.

    Browning High Power
    Colt 1911
    Ruger Mark 1 .22
    Winchester Model 12
    M1 Garand
    Winchester 101
    Smith and Wesson M19

    Runners up:
    Ithaca M37
    Springfiled 1903a
    Win 94
    Browning Superposed

    All are still very relevant today
     
  7. lawson

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    M1 Carbine
    M1 Garand
    Colt Single Action Army
    Colt Detective Special
    Winchester 1912 (got that one covered :D)
    Savage 99 (.250 Savage)
    Springfield 1903
     
  8. 50caliber123

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    1. M1 Garand
    2. M1 Carbine
    3. Enfield #5 mk1
    4. Swiss K31
    5. Kar98k
    6. AK47 (early model, milled reciever, BATF legal semi-auto only)
    7. SKS
     
  9. jtward01

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    Colt Commander - .45acp
    Colt .22 (pre-Woodsman) pistol - .22LR
    Remington pump rifle (don't recall the model) - .22LR
    Winchester Model 12 shotgun - 20 ga.
    Winchester Model 1894 - .30-30 cal.
    Winchester M1 carbine - .30 cal.
    Remington Model 70 w/scope - .30-06 cal.
     
  10. Onmilo

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    Commercial Mauser Sporter in 9X57
    Winchester Model 12 12 bore,28" modified
    Winchester Model 63 .22 autoloader
    Browning Hi-Power
    Walther PP in .22 L.R.
     
  11. griz

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    CAS is my game so four of my picks are already made.

    1&2 Colt SAA, either 44 special or 45 Colt
    3 1897 Winchester
    4 1873 Winchester, probably 45 but the one I have in 357 is sure nice.

    The other three are for hunting, defence, and general plinking.

    5. Winchester model 70. If the 308 was post 1950, make it 7 X 57
    6. S&W in 357 mag, I guess that was before model numbers but I don't know what they called it.
    7. Winchester 52 to have a nice 22.

    Sure are a lot of Winchester there, I will miss them:(
     
  12. Jim Watson

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    I am thinking of real deal pre 1950 guns, as available new, in the era, not second hand, not watered down MIMed mutant descendants or worn out Slobbovian surplus, to be used for my present applications.

    Colt National Match .45 - IDPA
    High Standard G-E .22 - practice
    Colt Detective Special .38 - CCW
    Winchester M70 Target .30-06 - Long Range F-class match
    Winchester M75 Sporter .22 - Rimfire Sporter match
    Browning Superposed 12 ga - skeet
    Remington M31 TC 12 ga. - trap

    Of course, I REALLY need four more guns to shoot CAS and fill out my schedule.
    Colt SAA .44 Russian and S&W Special (pair)
    Winchester '73 .44 WCF
    Fox Sterlingworth 12 ga
     
  13. 1911Tuner

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    A WW1 or WW2-era 1911/1911A1 would do...as I sometimes carry a stock 1918 Colt, a 1944 Remington Rand, and a rebuilt 1943 Colt...but not all at the same time, of course.

    A '94 Winchester/30-30 is about as good as it gets for a general-purpose, go anywhere carbine. I like the M-77 Ruger Ultralight/RSI bolt-action carbines in .308 caliber too. Almost pure Mauser, it should qualify by default.

    M1 Garand is another hard-to-beat rifle for a personal hard-duty weapon,
    with the "03-A3 Springfield running second.

    Not at all uncomfortable with a short, double shotgun...preferably with exposed hammers. Much prefer the Winchesters M-97 and M-12. (Never hand a '97 try to eat my hand, though some do have that issue.)

    Smith & Wesson DA revolvers...basically the same design as the Hand-Ejector
    Model which predates 1950 by quite a while. Partial to the Model 58 M&P for the boonies, but can live with a M-13 in 4-inch/square butt or 3-inch/round butt for a lighter carry package in town. The latter is my personal favorite street revolver, and I sometimes carry one.

    Which five to have and to hold forever with no trades allowed?

    The '43 Colt 11-A1...The Winchester '94 carbine...The Coach gun...The M-13 round butt Smith...and a .22 pump or lever-action from an early era...Not partial to brand or model, but I kinda like the old Marlin M-39 with the octagon barrel.
     
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    S&W Military & Police - not that ugly plastic pistol, but the real M&P revolver in .38 Special, one of the best balanced handgun designs ever.
    JT
     
  15. Brother in Arms

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    Rifles
    M1 Garand.30-06 (.308 not available till 1952)
    AG-42 Ljungman 6.5x55mm




    Pistols
    C96 mauser 7.62x53mm
    1903 Colt pocket model .380
    Merwin Hubert .44-40




    Shotguns
    1901 winchester shotgun 10 or 12 gauge
    Ithaca Model 37 12 gauge

    There are many more but that is what I had in my mind as of today, its also true what another poster said about NFA items. This is Pre-68. the question really should be what wouldn't you buy.

    Brother in Arms
     
  16. Vern Humphrey

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    M1903A3 Springfield
    M1922 Springfield (.22 Long Rifle)
    M1 Garand
    M1911A1 .45 automatic.
    M12 Winchester trench gun

    Shotguns:
    M12 Winchester Pump
    LC Smith Double
    Lefever Double
    Parker Double

    Rifles:
    Model 70 Winchester in:
    .22 Hornet
    .30-06
    .375 H & H
    Model 52 Winchester sporter .22
    Model 94 Winchester in .30-30
    Model 99 Savage in .300 Savage

    Handguns:
    Colt Shooting Master in .45 Colt
    Colt Woodsman (.22 Long Rifle)
    Colt M357 in .357
    Colt Detective Special in .38 Special
     
  17. Stiletto Null

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    Browning 1911A1
    Thompson SMG

    Browning 1935
    SUOMI SMG

    Garand
    Swedish Mauser
    SKS
     
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    Remington Sportsman or 11. Was Browning selling the humpback then? Never liked pumps.

    M70 Winchester 30/06. Add a Weaver k4 scope.

    Colt 1911a1

    Stevens 311

    M1 Garand

    K98 Mauser

    Winchester 52
     
  19. 4v50 Gary

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    Winchester Model 70 in 30-06.
    Winchester Model 52
    Ithaca 37
    Mauser Schnellfeuer Broomhandle with shoulder stock holster
    Colt 1911A1
    Flintlock rifle (you could get an old timey one cheap back in the '50s)
    S&W M19 Revolver
     
  20. Brian Williams

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    Marlin 39m
    Marlin 1894 in 32-20
    S&W 1905 4th change in 38 spec
    1914 navy model Luger
    S&W 22lr hand ejector
     
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    7?

    Oh! I get two more?

    Okay...A Sharps carbine (45-70) cavalry model, and an M-2 Browning...:D
     
  22. STAGE 2

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    1. 1911A1
    2. Colt pocket .32
    3. Springfield 1903A4
    4. Garand
    5. M1 Carbine
    6. Thompson
    7. any early winny boomstick

    runner up
    8. BAR

    honorable mention
    9. BHP
     
  23. Michael Zeleny

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    1. SIG P210 in 9x19mm, 7.65x21mm, ans .22 l.r.
    2. S&W .357 Registered Magnum
    3. Hämmerli-Walther-Olympia .22 l.r.
    4. Colt Monitor in 30.06
    5. Swiss ZfK31/42 in 7.5x55
    6. Winchester M12 12 gauge, 30" full, 28" modified, 20" cylinder choke barrels
    7. Thompson M1928 in .45 ACP
     
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    Garand
    1911 pistol
    Winchester 1895 in .405
    '98 mauser
    any of the buffalo Sharps
    1873 Colt SAA in 44-40
    1873 Win in 44-40 to match
     
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    M1 Garand
    1911 Colt 45
    colt 38 super
    AK
    Browning Hi-Power
    Thompson
     
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