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Which AK to Buy or Avoid??

Discussion in 'Rifle Country' started by Colorado, Mar 8, 2008.

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  1. Colorado

    Colorado Member

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    I want an AK. Or and AK style rifle. Hi-cap, easy to shoot and clean. With the LOOK! I saw a TV show the other day where a guy took a handfull of dirt and poured it in one, then put it back together and fired a full mag with no problems!! I posted this in another forum and got some great advice. This forum is 10x as busy, and wanted your advice. I have heard pretty good things about the Lancaster 7.62's. Wondering if there are some out there that I should be avoiding? Thanks for the input. - CO
     
  2. newsavageowner

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    I've heard good things about Lancaster. Good things as well about Vectors. They are on the higher end. Yugos are good as well and are more in the middle, and Century makes some for a reasonable price. Romanian WASRs are also a good deal for the money, but they are not nearly as nice as the others mentioned above in terms of fit and finish but they are very cheap...you also need to look closely at a few things on them when buying...specifically check for front sight cant issues.
     
  3. asknight

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    Arsenal is the top dog.
    Saiga is #2.

    The rest is not for me.
     
  4. senorlinc

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    i like my lancaster..500 bucks...russian red model..looks like the old school ak from movies and such. shoots straight, no problems. came w a noce case, polished bolt and was relatively cheap. arsenal is supposedly the top name but they arent cheap. did see a sa 107 sf today that seemed nice-new for 850
     
  5. chris in va

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    Saiga for ~$300, convert it for another $150. Pick and choose what you want on there, truly a custom AK.

    It'll be brand-new, another added bonus. Chrome lined barrel.
     
  6. Bones11b

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    Have to agree 100% with Asknight. Having some experience under varying conditions with diffrent AK's, I purchased an Arsenal. Will probably add a Saiga to my collection someday. Wouldn't spend my money, time, or effort on any other AK's.
     
  7. JWarren

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    In spirit, I agree. However, I've owned a Vector that I was VERY pleased with. I've read excellent reviews of the Lancaster.

    For the right price, I'd consider some of the mid-range AKs such as Vector or Lancaster. Mind you, I said for the right price.

    But then again, if I could inspect it, I might get a WASR for the right price just to toss in the back of my jeep.


    Problem is that my idea of "the right price" is far different than what some want to charge for something like a WASR.


    -- John
     
  8. stubbicatt

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    I held and shot a Lancaster. Neat rifle. Had a Century Yugo, very accurate, but being made from old parts, the gas block was horribly corroded.

    If I were to buy one of these today, I'd get the Lancaster Polish underfolder.
     
  9. Hokkmike

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    Avoid WASR10 unless you can shoot before you buy.
     
  10. jpwilly

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    I have a Lancaster AKM built on a 1.6mm Reciever with new Romey "G" parts, Tapco G2 Trigger, AK-74 style brake, Saw Grip, 6 Position collapsable stock, UTG Hanguard with metal Rails and VG. Shoots and Handles like my M4 (that's what I was going for)


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  11. Your Local Armed Hebrew

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    I have heard and read positive feedback concerning the Israeli version called the Galil. However procuring one may be difficult. Israel don't seem to export many firearms other the the Desert Eagles and the Uzi. Probably because Zion needs all the weapons it can get.
     
  12. nalioth

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    While the Galil is a fine weapon, it is 2 generations removed from Mr. Kalashnikovs control.
     
  13. MD_Willington

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    All the variants around have pro's and con's..

    Check out the AK Forum... lots of info there...
     
  14. JWarren

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    Uhm... Century has been importing/outsourcing manufacturing for one for a while now. I know that a few guys in this forum bought one.

    http://www.jgsales.com/product_info.php/p/galil-style-golani-rifle,-223-caliber/products_id/1624?SID




    Uhm... Last I checked Israel doesn't primarily use the Galil anymore-- instead they have been using the M-16 for quite a while.


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  15. nalioth

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    There are lots of quality questions with the Century (and other makers who build on Ohio Rapid Fire receivers)Galils that the owner of ORF won't answer.

    Be wary.
     
  16. JWarren

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    Very true. I was pointing out the fallacy of the statements that I quoted.


    -- John
     
  17. coltcollector

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    Most of the bugs are out of the Century galils now and the accuracy is way above the AK's. AIM sold them out at $699 each.
     
  18. benEzra

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    I would suggest that if you go with a Lancaster, you might want to have them go ahead and put the optics rail on the receiver (I don't think it comes standard, and you may want to put an eastern bloc optic on it someday).

    FWIW, my AK is a 2002 model SAR-1:

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    Optic is a Gen-2 Kobra from Tantal.
     
  19. jpwilly

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    So what are they claiming Galil's accuracy to be?
     
  20. GunTech

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    I went looking for an AK and brought home a Galil. Better accuracy, 223, and there's an adapter for M16 magazines. My Golani/Galil is about a 2-3 MOA rifle, if I use good ammo.

    They aren't the cheapest.


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  21. RP88

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    Yugos are good...go for about 450-475 after all the extra costs. Much better than any WASR at least. But if barrel life is something you want, then consider a Lancaster or anything with a chromed barrel. Yugos require more cleaning, and the gas block corrosion usually isnt too bad if you get it, but there is nothing that can save the barrel unless you clean it thoroughly every time, and even then...

    You'll probably drop an extra 100-150 bucks for something above the yugo models, but you'll be getting a rifle that shoots just as good if not better and has new (i.e. not corroded) parts
     
  22. AK103K

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    Except for assembled kits, they all shoot pretty much the same. All your getting for the extra money is basically fit and finish.

    Spending extra on a fancier rifle will not necessarily get you a "better" rifle. My $350 Romanian made Century SAR1 and $375 WASR10 would easily out shoot my $550 Arsenal/Global Trades built SSR-85C. The SAR or WASR never had any parts failures, the 85C broke a disconnecter early on, taking the gun out of action until it was replaced. The 85C sure was pretty though, and was the prettiest AK I've ever owned. To bad it didnt shoot.

    Personally, I think the best AK's out there are the reconverted Saiga's. Krebs and AK-USA offer the nicest, but a lot of people do them themselves with good results.
     
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    I've heard a lot of bad things about Hesse/Vulcan builds. I have a 74 built on a Hesse receiver and never had any problems with it, but Hesse didn't assemble the rifle.
     
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    I always thought Arsenal was a top notch AK. My opinion soured on them when I learned that there have been people receiving their rifles with canted sights. That's something Century would do and not something I would consider acceptable from a company that charges nearly twice as much for their product.

    I'll stick with my Saigas, made in Russia with love :p
     
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