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Which barrel for deer?

Discussion in 'Shotguns' started by jon86, Nov 7, 2011.

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  1. jon86

    jon86 Member

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    I don't hunt yet, but I'd like to begin soon. I have a buddy that is willing to "teach me the ropes." :D

    Instead of buying a new rifle, I think I'm just going to use the old Maverick 88. Right now it has a smoothbore 18.5 inch barrel with a front bead sight. I'd like to get a more appropriate barrel for this application. Which one would you get and why? I want the most accuracy I can squeeze out of it.

    28" vent rib- $144
    http://www.cheaperthandirt.com/2MS90130-1.html

    24" smoothbore with rifle sights- $104
    http://www.cheaperthandirt.com/2MS90055-1.html
    I would use this one with rifled slugs.

    24" rifled barrel with rifle sights- $148
    http://www.cheaperthandirt.com/2MS92049-1.html
    I would use this one with sabot slugs???

    OR... (I know this is the shotgun section) Would I be better off with a cheap mosin nagant?

    Any advice would be appreciated, as I have a lot to learn about deer hunting. Thanks in advance!
     
  2. dprice3844444

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    just have the barrel threaded for a choke,bbl you got now will work

    rifled chokes are available
     
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  3. Sam1911

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    If you really want it accurate, you'll want the rifled barrel and then will want to try out all the available sabot slugs to find the one it shoots the best.

    Sabot slugs are expensive, but they can be amazingly accurate out to ~200 yds.

    You could certainly work with what you have and try out a few different "rifled" slugs -- you might find that you can confidently strike a deer's vitals out to ~75 yds or so. Maybe more if you're really a good shot.

    I don't think I'd bother getting a rifle-sight smoothbore barrel. With practice, at ethical/practical ranges, the bead-sight barrel will do just fine.

    You should decide what kind of hunting you'll be doing, and what shots you're likely to take. If you set up to hunt in thick cover and/or for close-in shots, trying to wring 2" at 100 yd. accuracy out of it is probably unnecessary. If you're hunting powerline cuts or bean fields, a smoothbore shotgun with rifled slugs may be frustrating.
     
  4. PedalBiker

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    If your receiver is drilled for scope mounts you can mount a light weight scope and use the barrel you have now. Rifled slugs are good to at least 75 yards from an IC or cylinder choke barrel.

    Federal makes a new style slug called Tru Ball or some such that's supposed to be even better.
     
  5. BADUNAME37

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    I have a Mossberg 500 that I purchased a Mossberg 24" barrel that is ported and fully-rifled from the factory, it came with adjustable OEM Williams Firesights on it. The total from Mossberg was about $184 as I recall.

    I purchased many different boxes of saboted slugs (5 per box) and never really got to even see which ones work best as I have only been hunting with this setup at about 25 yards maximum distance.

    Some day, when I have the time and my body can put up with the "punches" to my shoulder - I shall test the various slugs at 50 yards (off a bench and over my Chronograph) so I can see just which saboted slugs the barrel really likes and obtain the velocity. With my Barnes Ballistic Software, I can input velocity, Ballistic Coefficient and sight-height to produce a trajectory plotting out to as many yards as I will be shooting (say, bullet rise or drop - in inches - every two feet out to 100 yards).;)
     
  6. USAF_Vet

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    My Mav 88 is currently wearing it's 28" vent rib smoothbore barrel. It's already got one deer under it's belt from a couple years ago.

    Under the best circumstances, the rifled barrel will be the most accurate, but sabots are not cheap. Depending on the terrain, a shorter barrel might be more appropriate. In the light forested areas where I hunt, a 28" barrel from a ground blind is not an issue. It's certainly a capable platform for killing deer.

    However, I do mount an optic for deer season because I don't like deer hunting with a bead sight. Wingshooting I'm okay with just a bead, but slug hunting I prefer the scope. So if that resonates with you, and you don't want the additional expense of mount, rings and scope, the rifled smoothbore would be a decent option to go with also.

    While an 18.5" barrel is capable of the accuracy needed for deer, I feel more comfortable with that extra barrel length.
     
  7. Sam1911

    Sam1911 Moderator Emeritus

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    ? If you're mounting a scope, the barrel length makes no difference at all, though. ?

    (Well, except in a slight velocity drop with the shorter tube.)
     
  8. USAF_Vet

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    I don't know, I've never actually experimented with optics and a shorter barrel, other than a 30mm red dot.

    Longer barrels do increase stability, ergo accuracy at range, IME. I personally won't hunt with my HD barrel if given the choice, but that may or may not have anything to do with stability/ accuracy and everything to do with my own perceptions/ experiences.
     
  9. sKunkT

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    anything past 24" in a slug gun is wasted space, unless you're pulling double duty as mentioned it is just fine. If it is a dedicated deer gun with a 'set it and forget it' mentality, where you will get it set up, check it before season and leave it alone, I would get a rifled barrel and shoot sabots with some sort of red dot or scope. But at $10+ for a box of five shells, you may not want to shoot it much- I know I cringe every time I buy a couple of boxes. A lot of deer have been taken by me, my family, and others that live where I do (primarily shotgun only for deer in my immediate area) with regular rifled slugs. There was a girl at the rifle range last weekend with a Mossy 500 vent rib, choked barrel, with some sort of Nikon scope, blasting out a 6" target at 50 yards- she made it look easy. Growing up, my buddies and I all shot smoothbore 12 and 20 gauges.

    You can mount optics by either receiver screws or saddle mount that pins to the receiver, you may want to just try the barrel you have with rifled slugs- you may be surprised!

    Best of luck, whatever you decide.
     
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  10. Murphys Law

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    If you want, as you stated, the maximum accuracy, try this option. http://www.cheaperthandirt.com/2MS92256-1.html The cantilever barrel allows the easy mounting of a scope and just needs the appropriate scope rings. The scope will stay mounted to the barrel when you switch the barrel off and on with your other barrel and will usually stay pretty close to original point of aim and impact when you remount the scoped barrel. This would make for an easy preseason sight in every year. You will need to use the more expensive sabots though to get the full advantage of that barrel. Depending on brand, they can be around 15.00 for a box of 5.
     
  11. BADUNAME37

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    I totally agree with the previous post (10).

    The scope will be part of the barrel, not part of the receiver!

    Get a decent scope that will take some heavy recoil, a good set of rings and you are good to go!

    I would wager that that barrel would shoot just about any saboted slug accurately!
     
  12. bejay

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    you probably want the rifled barrel and if you want a scope then the cantilever barrel would be what you want if you dont want a scope rifle sights should be fine.
    would probably stick with the shotgun instead of buying a mosin myself but you might consider a bolt action such as savage or marlin can usually be had for under 300 as a better alternative by the time you spend 150 or more on a rifled barrel. assuming you can hunt with rifles in your state might check game laws for your state.
    http://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/product_info.php/cPath/974/products_id/70953
     
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