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Which compact 9mm?

Discussion in 'Handguns: Autoloaders' started by Dollar An Hour, Jan 18, 2006.

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Which compact 9mm for CC?

Poll closed Feb 7, 2006.
  1. Kel-Tec P-11

    8.6%
  2. Springfield XD9 Subcompact

    45.7%
  3. Glock 26

    45.7%
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  1. Dollar An Hour

    Dollar An Hour Member

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    I've heard alot of good about the Kel-Tec P-11 and the price is right. The XD feels good in my hand, and I know the G26 has a pretty strong following as well.

    Which would you choose and why? Considering price, customer service of the brand, and the reputation of the weapon?
     
  2. Moonclip

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    I'd go Sig Sauer P239 in 9mm. Of the choices listed though if you don't mind a 14 oz 9mm with a fairly heavy trigger pull the Kel Tec is ok. I find the recoil on a Glock 27 somewhat severe but the 9mm should be less so and a decent pistol. How do you plan on holstering this gun, especially the Glock?
     
  3. ReadyontheRight

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    You may want to also check out the compact S&W99/Walther P99.
     
  4. FPrice

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    The only one I have any experience with is the Glock 26 and that is the one I voted for and have on my belt right now. It's light, accurate, and has very easy recoil.

    I wear it in a Don Hume IWB holster.
     
  5. Black Majik

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    I think a G19 is a true compact. The G26 is suppose to be a "subcompact," but it doesn't fit that role very well, nor does it fit the compact role well either.

    The G19 is light, accurate, reliable, durable and relatively thin.

    Oh yeah, the P225 would be VERY high on the list also. :)
     
  6. Dollar An Hour

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    IWB for when I'm not pocket carrying my J-Frame .38 Spl.

    Sig is a bit spendy & bulky for me to be honest.

    I screwed up, I really meant "subcompact" such as the G26, P-11, etc...
     
  7. Jkwas

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    I vote for the Taurus PT111 Mil Pro.
     
  8. Extremist

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    None of the above. My choice in that category would be the Walther P99C AS Trigger. :D

    James
     
  9. Ala Dan

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    Without a doubt, Springfield's XD-9 sub-compact~!:D
     
  10. Old Dog

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    Sorry, but I've been through the Kel-Tec P-11 (mine was such a POS, if I hadn't been able to trade it off, I'd have taken it apart and thrown it away) and the Glock -- such an odd-sized, un-ergonomic piece with the silly Glock trigger, it just didn't work for me either ... I might consider the XD; a buddy has an excellent XD9 that I'm warming to, so I'm assuming the subcompact model could be worthy ...

    For me, though, the only compact 9s that work are the SIG 228, CZ-75C (these two aren't real compact, though) and Taurus PT-111 Mil-Pro.
     
  11. ajax

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    but I really like the Hawg 9 from Para. My vote was for the X/D but only because the Hawg wasn't on the poll. :)
     
  12. Old Dog

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    Now that you mention it ... Springfield Armory, if I recall, briefly made either a Micro or Ultra Compact in 9mm. That'd be an intriguing platform to try out ...

    So you've got the Hawg? And it's good? Hmm.
     
  13. denfoote

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    Compact 9mm.

    Since Glock absolutely refuses to come out with a decent single stack 9mm, I got this one.

    [​IMG]

    Kahr MK9 Elite 98.

    It ain't cheap, but the best never is!! :neener: :D
     
  14. Fun2Shoot

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    2nd XD here

    I bought my 2nd XD recently and it's the XD9 sub compact this time. It replaces a Bersa .380 and j-frame S&W 642 for CCW, so my vote was of course, the sub XD in the poll.

    I have rented a smaller Glock in 40SW and it's ergonomics just didn't suit me. The XD, well this is my 2nd, so obviously I like the overall feel of the frame and the XD'-9's are well known to feed any and all ammo without issues.

    I considered buying a 1911 in 3" barrel, but read too many stories about how it is hard to get a 1911 45acp that short to run well w/o a lot of aftermarket gunsmithing. I don't need any more gun headaches at my stage of life, thank you. ;)

    Kel-Tec's seem to run hot and cold for people. Looks interesting and if I come across a good used one someday, I may buy it just for fun, but not to rest my life on.
     
  15. ajax

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    Old dog it's good but I have really small hands and it fits me okay. If someone has a pair of meat hooks theirs a good chance they won't like it so much.:evil:
     
  16. Ichiro

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    I'm on the (long term) hunt for a carry 9mm as well. I've scratched Kel-Tec off the list, because I'm not interested in a gun that needs to be tuned, sent back to the factory, fluffed 'n buffed, etc. before it can be trusted.

    I've also scratched the Glock 26 off the list for two reasons: (1) I don't like the light trigger pull for safety reasons (my own safety), and (2) with the thick grip, you may as well carry a Glock 19. I think the Glock 19 is a superb gun, but I still would not carry one because of the trigger.

    Any double-stack 9mm seems too fat for carry. Even the Sig 239, which is a single stack, has a fairly fat grip.

    On the other hand, the Kahrs are single-stack and slender, very ergonomic, and double-action only. Even the light and small PM-9 fit very well in my hand and has a nice trigger. The only Kahr I've ever actually fired was a K-9, but it is a superb gun, fun to shoot at the range, and much smaller and flatter than the SP-101 that I carry. In addition, the 9mm +P rounds are more powerful than the short-barrel .357 mag. I carry in the SP-101, and there are 7 of them (8 if you go +1). I could carry stouter loads, of course, but I feel more confident placing multiple shots with reduced recoil and flash loads.

    Finally, an extra magazine is easy to carry and very fast for reloads. I'm a bit turned off of my Ruger due to several failures to reload with a speedloader at the range. The .357 rounds can hang up on the grips of the revolver and virtually jam up the gun. On more than one occasion, I've struggled with the darned thing for more than 30 seconds before finally securing the reload. It's maddening. So I switched to a speed strip for better reliability. 38s load much easier, but then I may as well have an airweight.

    If I had to choose a 9mm for carry right now, I'd probably go with a steel Kahr, either a K-9 or an MK-9.

    ~Ichiro
     
  17. Dragun

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    +1 for Kel-Tec P-11. was the smallest lightest 9mm around until the Rohrbaugh (or however you spell it?) beat it out. although it was at the expense of bullet capacity I think. mine has been flawless (even through the supposed 500 rd. break thing, where all bugs get worked out) with only one fail to feed in about 3000 rounds. i blame that on my son (maybe 12 at the time) first time shooting some 147gr had a FTF. i think he kinda limpwristed on it, so i finished out the mag no prob. he's 19 now and can't wait to get his own. about 7 years now and going strong makes me feel warm and fuzzy.
     
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    Kahr PM9
     
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    I personally like the XD-9; I shoot it better than the Glock.

    Honestly, whichever one of these 3 you shoot better should do you no wrong.
     
  20. Dollar An Hour

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    You make good points about the light trigger of the Glock.

    When I made the poll, I almost included Kahr's PM-9 and MK-9, but last time I was gun shopping, the prices were up there. :eek: Anyway the Kahrs feel great in hand, and I like the DAO long trigger for a CC weapon. Like a wheelgun, but thinner, with more capacity. ;)

    Kel-Tec - I've heard some folks rave about the P-11, but alot of people get disgusted with P3AT's and other Kel-Tec models. I agree that I don't want to fiddle with it, I just want it to work, and an inexpensive CC gun could turn out to be the worst deal you ever made should it not prove reliable. :(

    I like the track record of the XD-9, sounds super-reliable.

    9mm out of a 3"+ barrel, on paper at least, is a better SD round than .38 Spl out of a snubby. Also, I like the extra capacity of the pistol, so I'm gonna try carrying a small 9mm and see if I prefer it to the J-Frame. I'd never sell the J-Frame though to be honest. :)

    I need to have another look at the P99 Compact. Are these imported by S&W, or built here in the US?
     
  21. Ichiro

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    I love my SP, but it is a belt gun.

    For a 9mm, I would want a pocket gun, maybe a PM-9 or MK-9.

    For you, maybe a belt 9mm would be a better option, since you've already got a pocket gun in the 442. For that use, there are a whole bunch of good guns.

    ~Ichiro
     
  22. VTKFJoe

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    its a PM9 for deep cover for me (G19 for belt/bedstand), but like Ichiro said, if you already have the pocket gun taken care of then...

    I had and loved a S&W 3914, a bit smaller than a Sig p239 with the same capacity and much cheaper. Also, the Kahr K9 or P9 might be worth lookin at.

    Good luck.

    Joe
     
  23. scubie02

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    I've got 2 xd's and one is a 9 compact. Its a great gun--accurate, always goes bang, fits good. But in reality most of the subcompacts really aren't much of any more concealable than my 4" LW Compact 1911, and often less comfortable because they are thicker. Its nice to drop in a coat pocket when you're walking the dog, though, as an alternative to a revolver. It does carry nice and relatively light on the belt though, but as mentioned is fatter than a 1911.
     
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  25. Hawk

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    I would've veered off the choices for Roarback or Rorbach or whatever but I promised myself I'd never buy I gun I can't spell.

    For that reason, XD or Glock.
    Easy to spell.

    Works good too.
     
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