Which had more revolutionary impact: Glock or Colt 1911?

Which had more revolutionary impact on handguns: Glock or Colt 1911?

  • Glock

    Votes: 56 16.3%

  • Colt 1911

    Votes: 244 71.1%

  • They were equally influential.

    Votes: 43 12.5%
  • Total voters
    343
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Glock.... face it to all the 1911 fanboys, Glock is superior firepower Today. More rounds per magazine in factory form.
But gLock would probably not exist if 1911 wasnt around to begin with. I like them both, but I carry and trust my GLOCKsssss, much more than ANY 1911... Sorry you paid to much for that custom 1911, I can shoot the same bullet with my 500 dollar GLock.. How you like them apples?
 
Glock.... face it to all the 1911 fanboys, Glock is superior firepower Today. More rounds per magazine in factory form.
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So Glock introduced the high(er) capacity magazine??.....

But gLock would probably not exist if 1911 wasnt around to begin with.
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You also said this^, BulletBendeR.....which is the actual answer to the original question. Now, it is obvious that you are trying to justify your Glock over high-dollar 1911's......and you are calling everyone else here "fanboys"?....
 
Geeez! The question is not which design is better, the question is which had more revolutionary impact. That impact can only be measured in the appropriate context.

The 1911 made its impact in 1911. It made another in the 1970's when IPSC started gaining popularity and raising interest and standards in combat pistolcraft.

The Glock made its impact in 1982 and took advantage of the growing trend towards semi-autos coming out of IPSC competitions.

When the 1911 was introduced, is was the only reliable alternative to the revolver.

When the Glock 17 was introduced, this was still the case. The Glock offered an alternative to the alternative, and the reduced weight and increased magazine capacity along with the simplified manual of arms made it an attractive alternative for American police departments. When US police departments went to Glocks, civilians followed suit.

30 years ago, revolvers were a major part of every manufacturers product line. Semi-autos had a presence but not a large one, and they were more expensive. Today, the semi-auto is the major portion of most manufacturers lines and revolvers are higher priced niche market items. This major sea-change coincided with the growing popularity of the Glock pistols and today the semi-auto, not the revolver, is usually the first consideration for anyone buying a SD handgun.

I may not like it one bit, but if you measure it by the impact on the handgun market, the Glock had the most revolutionary impact.

This has nothing to do with which design is better. Design wise, the 1911 is the direct ancestor of the Glock and you could just as easily say that one started the revolution and the other finished it.
 
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More appropriate would be an older Z28 to a Modern V6 sedan.
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Probably. I didn't make the Yugo comparison.

Mine would be more like:

Roll Royce Phantom (Beautifully hand crafted, good performance) = H&H Double rifle

Dodge Challenger (stylish, hi-performance, many customizing options, reliability inversely proportionate to increases in performance) = M1911

Toyota Camry (Boring, Ugly, Economical, Reliable) = Glock

Kia Rio (OK, but very entry-level, every emphasis on low cost) = Hi-Point

Yugo GV (just plain junk) = Davis/Lorcin/Etc.
 
Easy as apple pie :D

I'll forego all the obvious, and maybe someone already said this, as I just skipped to my answer...

the 1911.

Based on the same scale we have used for years...

Money.

I can't imagine that the Glock industry profits come anywhere near the 1911 industry profits, of course that is a few companies vs maybe hundreds, but Madison Ave will easily overlook such trifles :D
 
Sorry you paid to much for that custom 1911, I can shoot the same bullet with my 500 dollar GLock.. How you like them apples?
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By your logic, those with High Points are the smartest ones because they bought a $150 handgun that fires the same bullet as your $500 Glock.

Can't get as nice of a trigger, accuracy, or ergonomics. It looks better to top it all off.
 
The only real answer to this is that glock needs to produce a polymer frame 1911. Then we can have our cake and eat it too.
 
Probably depends on how you define "revolutionary impact", but for my money I'd have to say the Glock.

There are of course many many successive designs that use many of the same basic design concepts as the 1911, but to what degree was the 1911-specific formula adopted worldwide or even within the US following its introduction? It was big in the US military, but neither the gun nor the cartridge really took off outside the US, and domestic civilian use (police, etc) the revolver still dominated until, what, the 1980s? While it was (obviously) a tremendously significant presense and influence, the Glock initiated a worldwide paradigm shift of epic proportions. Since the time the Glock came out, what new design can be taken seriously that does NOT mimic the Glock exactly in terms of the polymer frame, light weight, striker fired/light DAO consistent type trigger, double stack...

With the Glock you can say it caused a near-instant worldwide shift in the definition of a "combat/carry" handgun. Don't know that you can say the same for the 1911, revolutionary as it might have been. "Instant" and "worldwide" being the two key words.
 
ny32182 said:
Probably depends on how you define "revolutionary impact", but for my money I'd have to say the Glock.

There are of course many many successive designs that use many of the same basic design concepts as the 1911, but to what degree was the 1911-specific formula adopted worldwide or even within the US following its introduction? It was big in the US military, but neither the gun nor the cartridge really took off outside the US, and domestic civilian use (police, etc) the revolver still dominated until, what, the 1980s? While it was (obviously) a tremendously significant presense and influence, the Glock initiated a worldwide paradigm shift of epic proportions. Since the time the Glock came out, what new design can be taken seriously that does NOT mimic the Glock exactly in terms of the polymer frame, light weight, striker fired/light DAO consistent type trigger, double stack...

With the Glock you can say it caused a near-instant worldwide shift in the definition of a "combat/carry" handgun. Don't know that you can say the same for the 1911, revolutionary as it might have been. "Instant" and "worldwide" being the two key words.
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ny32182 - very good post
 
Marketing....not design.
The most "revolutionary" thing about Glock is how they captured market share among US law enforcement. The 1911 never came close.


Until the early 1980's the great majority of US police departments issued .38 revolvers. Glock helped change that.

Both are great guns, but neither is a "revolutionary" design.
 
Probably depends on how you define "revolutionary impact", but for my money I'd have to say the Glock.

There are of course many many successive designs that use many of the same basic design concepts as the 1911, but to what degree was the 1911-specific formula adopted worldwide or even within the US following its introduction? It was big in the US military, but neither the gun nor the cartridge really took off outside the US, and domestic civilian use (police, etc) the revolver still dominated until, what, the 1980s? While it was (obviously) a tremendously significant presense and influence, the Glock initiated a worldwide paradigm shift of epic proportions. Since the time the Glock came out, what new design can be taken seriously that does NOT mimic the Glock exactly in terms of the polymer frame, light weight, striker fired/light DAO consistent type trigger, double stack...

With the Glock you can say it caused a near-instant worldwide shift in the definition of a "combat/carry" handgun. Don't know that you can say the same for the 1911, revolutionary as it might have been. "Instant" and "worldwide" being the two key words.
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Very well said.
 
The Glock is great in all, but there aren't many guns out there that are inspired by the Glock. Just look at the 1911 though, you can't find a gun company that doesn't make its own version of the 1911. Also when a company makes a 1911 knock off, they call it a 1911. While when there is a Glock knock off they give it a whole new name. Also the 1911 has seen more military action. Even though almost every Police Department uses a Glock Model 22.
 
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The Glock is great in all, but there aren't many guns out there that are inspired by the Glock. Just look at the 1911 though, you can't find a gun company that doesn't make its own version of the 1911. Also when a company makes a 1911 knock off, they call it a 1911. While when there is a Glock knock off they give it a whole new name. Also the 1911 has seen more military action. Even though almost every Police Department uses a Glock Model 22.
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For the first part Glock is one of the biggest handgun manufacturers in the world andthey dont make a 1911. For the second part the patents on the 1911 have long expired and I'm sure glock would sure your pants off if you copied them and called it a glock (think s&w). If you wanted to you could build a glock and only use 3 or 4 factory parts.
 
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