Discussion in 'Handguns: General Discussion' started by LookAtYou, Jun 8, 2022.
Only 40 watts?
357/38 will be around. 9mm with a caveat that no high powered lung blowing military assault cartridges get banned.
Despite this, Armscor and Tisas still make them (as does AO/Kahr).
9x21 still has some IPSC popularity for "making major" with high round counts in "stock" magazines.
And, for better or worse, it remasins a hugely popular round along the length of the US-Mexico border (a legacy of when Mexico outlawed "military" calibers) and for how slick a 9mm diameter round will "run" in a 1911 frame.
Mind, that does bring to mind a caliber that is very much gone by the wayside, the .38acp, the parent of the 38super.
Best way to monitor such thing is often to monitor the cartridge collector's market.
If it’s my job as a “responsible” gun owner to go out and buy a .25ACP and a .45GAP in order to help prevent those two cartridges (not “calibers”) from going extinct, I’m bowing out. I’m not THAT much of a “responsible” gun owner.
There are many ‘obsolete’ cartridges, but maybe not ‘extinct’, if there’s a weapon chambered for it, there’s probably somebody somewhere loading for it, although I haven’t heard of anyone loading Rocket Ball(Volcanic) rounds.
You should have said "cartridges". The names of cartridges are often not the actual caliber. There are a number of cartridges with a common caliber.
38 Super will be extinct if it isn't already, which is a shame
...or logic, or common sense, or..... anything.
Sadly, wheel weights made from lead are drying up, and linotype is basically gone. Lead is getting harder to come by. Your argument is not as strong as I wish it was.
And then there's my scuba weights.
Need to stock up on solid copper and brass though.
This is so; lead ingots at the plumbing supply house are getting to be like printed copies of Yellow Pages.
Still waiting for some 357/44 B&D to show its face so i have the right headstamp...
The 30 and 357 Herretts are pretty well niche cartridges. As is the 221 fireball and even the almighty 222 Rem and 220 swift.
We all know 9 and 45 will be around until lasers and plasma take over. 32ACP will also be around. Many countries do not allow guns chambered in a military caliber. Thats why the 32 is popular.
The .380 ACP, 9mm. Parabellum, .38 Special, .357 Magnum, .44 Magnum, .45 Colt, and the .45 ACP will be around for like... all eternity!
10 years ago 45 Long was also obsolete. 9mm Largo, some French and some smal rimfire (Belgium).
Add .38 Special, and I think you've got it nailed.
I don't consider .22 LR to be a "handgun" caliber, although lots of handguns use it. Handguns could all disappear tomorrow, and .22 LR would still be with us.
These things seem to move in predictable cycles. First they get the "machine" guns, the "full autos". Nevermind "shall not be infringed" and the second clearly being designed to keep a civilian populace on fighting terms with a hostile army.
Those guns are priced out now and niche. As mentioned, you used to be able to order guns from catalogues and have them delivered. The hoops we go through today were unimaginable a few generations ago.
Once they get the machine guns, it's "assault rifles". Along with that are the (arbitrary) "high capacity" mags.
Biden jumped a few turns going for the 9mm "lung blasters", must've been reading ahead.
When they get the autos, and the sporting rifles, next it's that no civilian needs such a military caliber.
Places like Mexico cap you at 380/38.
Then there's a high profile shooting with handguns. I lived in Scotland when Dunblane happened. And "no honest person needs a weapon you could conceal".
The you're left eventually with only sporting arms, and so many loops and red tape. Single shot shotguns, 22lr rifles etc. Maybe stored at the range etc.
Ammo tightly controlled.
So if we go the way of the rest of the world, to bring it around to the caliber discussion, then we end up with twelve gauge maybe and 22lr as the last to go.
The first - 25 ACP
Keep your eyes open, it turns up. Recently acquired a few hundred pounds of old pipe, now I'm scrounging the antique shops for pewter.
Lead may be the deciding factor, however. Let those copper Lehigh attain broad acceptance, and introduce lead bans, and we'll be turning our backs on heavy and slow as we embrace fast and light. Bye-bye .45acp, hello 30 super carry.
Why 45 GAP? Exactly one gun was made for it and nobody has bought a box of ammo for it in 15 years, yet it remains. Unless Glock folds the gap will remain. Don't forget Glock made 10mm the entire time. Maybe the only one. Kimber may have in small numbers. Same for eaa/tanfoglio. The Gap going extinct would be Admitting "imperfection".
I install tires in my shop, not my main buisness BUT having a tire machine and good balancer makes diagnosing some issues easier so I bought them. Lead weights are still 99.9 % of what we use at my shop. Even adhesive weights we order are mostly still lead. Some OEM use a funky foam weight though and most use other metals, I assume to satisfy the states that don't allow lead. A few states don't allow lead weights and the big sites (all tire supply etc etc) will default to lead if your state allows. Less than 10 don't allow lead. You can likely guess them. Lol.
With adhesive weights being single time use, there should be a good bit of used weights somewhere. I throw mine in an old cheese puff tub. Lol.
Hammer on weights are generally reused.
You can to me if you take me out to eat first.
At any rate, I'll be obsolete and extinct before any currently made ammunition will be, so it doesn't really matter.
might apply to .50GI as that was a round everyone jumped into.
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