Which new wonder 9

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  1. needmorecowbell

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    Thinking about picking up one of the newer wonder nines to try. Let’s say that means those that came out after the last government bid. Also ones that can be had optic ready. I’ve owned and still have many of the older ones, want something new. Gen 5 Glock doesn’t count, sorry. I have and like Glocks. Want to hear what are your favorites and why. Thanks.

    Here are ones I’m thinking of right now. Have seen some good optic combo deals on some of these. What others too?

    Sig X series (Pro)
    FN 509
    Beretta APX
    CZ P10
    Canik TP series

    Liked everything about the Sig except that rear sight was attached to optic plate, but I hear the Pro series fixes that so I’m leaning towards it.
     
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    There are a lot of folks that like the FN509, but man, FN goes through a bunch of different models and doesn't seem to support the previous model. The FN509 may stay around forever, but the track record isn't good.

    Canik may also be great, but I don't think they have the historical track record of SIG, Beretta, or CZ.
     
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    I’m planning to get a 15 rd midsize and carry it some, maybe with optic. I keep getting drawn to the Beretta as possible best overall value. Will pick up extra high cap mags so mag cost matters too which Berettas are inexpensive. I really can’t decide
     
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    Pretty sure the Pro is only available to L.E. or "qualified professionals" (which maybe you are) but I'd go with the 320.

    My M17 came with one 17 round mag and two 21 round mags, I think the M18 does as well. I decided to get an X-carry upper for my M17, just slides right on and it goes from full size to midsize in seconds.

    I like the Canik pistols too, they've got a good repuatation, but the Walther PPQ might have the best trigger of all of them..
     
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    Was wondering that about the Pro. No I’m not LE. Are any of the other SIG’s made without rear sight part of optic plate? I think Canik’s are attached too. That’s a fairly big negative to me. That would lean me more towards the Beretta or CZ. I love my steel Czs, but not sure I’d like the grip texture on the P10. Need to handle one. Actually, need to handle them all. PPQ is a bit older, I had a couple of those before. I didn’t care for them as much as others because 1) I like trigger to have more of a definite wall and 2) I like flat panel grips more and I found it a bit slippery. Don’t do tape nor Talon grips. Also slide to frame felt loose.
     
  6. MilesR

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    Of the list I'd check out the cz and canik personally . Not a fan of the sigs
     
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    HK has updated the VP9 so that it also has optic mounting capability standard and also 17 round flush fit magazine. While Glock 19 Gen 5 MOS would be my first choice, the VP9 would be sweet too.

    https://hk-usa.com/heckler-koch-2020-vp9-update/
     
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    Definitely a top contender I did not know about. Thank you. A Glock 19 MOS could ultimately be the one I decide on too, but kinda want something different if can justify it. The Glock with its size and weight and price is tough to beat though.
     
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    Another one intriguing is IWI Masada
     
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    Just so you don't limit yourself. You can always have a slide milled to fit your optic of choice which will also give you the lowest fit into the slide depending on model and mounting style.

    There are lots of options like
    http://primarymachine.com/optic-milling-combos/
     
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    The Masada is a definite sleeper gun IMO. If I didn't already have a pile of 9mm guns I would be very interested in one. I've handled one at my local store often. There is a lot to like and little to criticize in that design (again, IMO).
     
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    My vote goes to FNS 9 or IWI Masada.
     
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    Ruger American Pistol.
     
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    FN always gets my vote. CZ would be a close second.
     
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    A guy in my combat pistol class had a fde Springfield Armory full size XD with optic and threaded barrel. I liked the look of it, and it ran well.
     
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    If that's an all-factory gun it's an XDm OSP. They are indeed very nice guns.
     
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    I was really hoping to shoot it, but I had another appointment immediately following the class so I had to scram.
     
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    The Canik would get my vote. I own two of them and they have been flawless. I've got over 5000 rounds through my SFX.

    Another one to watch might be that new FrankenGlock from PSA.
     
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    Was leaning towards something newer, but I do own 4 XD mod 2’s which I like a lot. If they came out with an OSP mod 2 I might jump on one. XDm grip for me is only meh
     
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    It looked pretty good to me.
     
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    Standard length VP9's now come with an optics cut.
     
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    I demo’d a CZ P10C and thought the trigger was top notch for accurate target shooting. For a carry gun, to be honest the trigger is a bit light and short for my personal comfort zone though. I didn’t care for the texture on the grip either. But the trigger sure made it easy to shoot tight groups, which now i think about every time i go to the range.
     
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    As others have pointed out, there are a lot of shops doing efficient, high-quality, reasonably-priced milling for putting optics on/in slides. And since you're not having to send the serialized frame, this can usually be done through regular parcel shipping, with no FFL transfers.

    That's still generally a one-optic proposition, so you'd need to be pretty committed to a particular optic.
     
  25. 94045

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    Wonder 9? Last time I heard that term was almost 40 years ago. Reference to Hi-Cap DA/SA 9mm.
     
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