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Which one.... Mossberg 930 SPX / Benelli M2 / Saiga-12

Discussion in 'Shotguns' started by Newguy1, Oct 18, 2007.

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  1. Newguy1

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    I have an interest in shooting 3 gun matches and I know I am not going to be the next superstar, I just want to have some fun doing some gunny things.

    There is a gunshow this weekend and I am most likely going to buy a shotgun. I have been initially interested in the Mossberg 930 SPX, mainly because it comes with everything that I think I will need. It has an extended magazine and ghost-ring sights. I have not been able to find one locally, and the one shop that I went into offered to get it for me, but wanted slightly less than MSRP for it ($600). The second shop I went to didn't have one in stock and didn't offer to order one... in fact the salesman told me that I should buy a Beretta instead. He didn't like it when I told him that I wasn't interested in a Beretta. I did put my mitts on a Benelli M2, which I really, really like. The main problem is that the Benelli was $1200 twice what the Mossberg is going for. On the way out I looked at a Saiga-12. It is a wicked looking weapon, but I don't like the sights on it, and it only came with one 5 round magazine and extra 10 round magazines were $60ish and extra 5 round magazines were $50ish. The Saiga-12 had a $650 price tag on it. I was also turned off by the attitude the salesman had.

    I have shot several Benellis, but that was 10 years ago. They were also Benelli Super Eagels, is there a difference between the Benellis of 10 years ago and the current make? I really, really liked the Benelli, but the price is making me look at other options.

    Are ghost-ring sights out there for Saiga-12s? I just don't know if a magazine fed shotgun is for me.... Plus the Saiga, after magazine purchases looks like it will be closer to the cost of a Benelli than the price of the Mossberg 930 SPX.

    I would like to see the Mossberg 930 SPX in person. It has a lot of the things I want and is priced a lot cheaper than the others...

    Any inputs appreciated.
     
  2. Shadowangel

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    $650 for a Saiga-12? I suggust you check out some places online, like FBMG and the like if you're wanting a Saiga. I've bought 5 round mags for $35ish a few months back, and my Saiga-12 was about $400 after shipping and ffl fees.

    That said..I love my Saiga. Amazing shotguns for the price, and far more durable imho than the other two. Can't beat a shotgun built on the AK action.
     
  3. MAX100

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    The Moss 930 SPX are excellent shotguns for the money. If you decide on one I have them in stock for $529 + shipping to your FFL dealer.



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  4. Smitty in CT

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    If you want to hold one of the 930SPX's before you buy one from MAX, Dick's Sporting Goods has them, I don't know how close you are to one, but you could give them a call and have them check for you.

    $650 for a Saiga is too high!! Check your local rules and make sure the Saiga doesn't bump you up into a more competetive group for 3-gun.

    The Benelli is a nice gun, but like you mentioned, $1200!!! OUCH!!!
     
  5. MAX100

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    That is a good idea you should go by and look at one. If you do you will probably end up walking out the door with one. They are excellent and offer a lot for the money. You may come out cheaper with Dicks. They are hard to compete with.



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  6. Navy87Guy

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    $650 for a converted Saiga (depending on what was done) isn't unreasonable. Way too high for a stock model, though.

    Mags are a bit pricey -- but you can out-load just about everyone out there.

    As far as 3-gun, using the Saiga will put you in the Open category (any magazine-fed shotgun does). If you just want to have fun and don't care about winning the division, then it's no big deal.

    One nice thing about a converted Saiga is that the manual of arms is pretty close to that for an AK (if you are so inclined.)

    Kreb's Custom makes a ghost ring sight for the Saiga - around $80. You can also get an AK-like front sight that bolts on and gives you a longer sight radius.

    Here's a pic of my converted S12 with the tower sight:

    Saiga_S12_CAA.png

    Jim
     
  7. Newguy1

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    Well I couldn't find a 930 SPX in stock, so I went ahead and bought the Benelli M2. It was what I really wanted anyway.
     
  8. MAX100

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    You could have bought both the Saiga 12 and Mossberg SPX for what you paid for the Benelli. You could have converted the Saiga yourself. The Saiga 12 shotgun is easier to convert than the Saiga rifles.

    The Mossberg 930 SPX is best deal going in a Tactical autoloader.



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  9. Chris Rhines

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    What's the capacity of the SPX? For a competitive Tactical-division shotgun, you want at lest 8+1.

    The Benelli M2 Field 21" is probably the most popular shotgun in Tactical-division 3gun, for reliability, speed, and handling. It is expensive, but worth it.

    The Saiga-12 is cool, but detachable magazines generally put you in Open division in 3gun. Just so you know.

    - Chris
     
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    The capacity is 7+1, you can get a +3 extention from Choate to give you 8+1, but it will stick out past the end of the barrel by about an inch...

    Here's a photo from someone that did it...
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    Smart move. Really.

    Here in a few years once all the bugs have been worked out of the mag fed shotguns, they may be better for 3-gun. But until then the Benelli is the winning gun and easy to use. What length barrel did you get? 21 or 24?
     
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    You picked a good choice. My M2 is 100% reliable, cycles FAST and points like a dream.
     
  13. Newguy1

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    The barrel is 19 inches or so. I think this has been on the dealers shelf for a while... it is the dirtiest new gun that I have ever bought. It had a lot of dust on it.

    It holds 5+1, can any provide some links for mag extensions and extended bolt handle?
     
  14. Robert Hairless

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    Benelli's USA hasn't imported the factory magazine extensions in some time but they're available. GunBroker usually has some auctions. You might even find some old stock at Benelli dealers. Tacstar makes them too, and so do other aftermarket vendors. Just Google for "Benelli extensions." The M1, M2, and SBE all use the same 12 gauge extension.

    I like DMW ("Dave's Metal Works") bolt extension but there are others too, I think. Check Brownells: http://www.brownells.com.

    Enjoy your new Benelli.
     
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    DMW good but heavy. Nordic better and much lighter.
     
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    In case you're interested, I have the Mossberg 930 SPX. I've taken it to the range twice, and so far it has performed flawlessly. It patterned nicely with Remington 00 buck, 2 1/2 mag shells. I haven't tried any reduced recoil ammo yet, but I have some of the Winchester 00 to try next time. I shot a few rifled slugs, but didn't really spend the time to evaluate its accuracy. No bench rest. I like the GR sight. The gun comes to the shoulder nicely, and I find it easy to quickly acquire targets from the high and low carry positions. I'm pleased with the gun.
     
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    Saw the M930 Tactical with the 7+1 and LPA Ghost Ring sights and top mounted rail for $600 in Los Angeles, decent deal considering?

    It's between that, the Benelli M4 ($1,395), M2 ($976), or Remington 11-87 (no price known).

    What do you guys think? I just want a semi-auto to play with and I have 3 pumps already.
     
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    mossberg 930 spx

     
  20. silversport

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    I bet he still doesn't have that price he posted in 2007...but who knows...
    Bill
     
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