Which pistol? (A real dilemma!)

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Try a SIG. Everything I want in a pistol; I will never part with mine. Wide variety of 9mm, several with easy hold E2 grips. SAS might be right for you.

If you seek a small, fairly light CCW, there are plenty Walther P5s around. Accurate, dependable, its point of impact is where I aim, if you know what I mean...
 
RE: the PX4

Did you shoot the compact or sub-compact? The compact is new to the market while the sub-compact has been out several years. The compact has a rotating barrel similar to the full size while the subcompact has a tilt barrel. I just purchase a compact and will take it to the range later this week. I now own all three PX4 Storm pistols, full size, compact, and sub-compact. If the compact shoots as well as the full size and sub-compact I will be very pleased.
 
I only shot the full-sized and the sub-compact. That's all they had at the range for rent. I thought the sub-compact was the compact, bu tit seems I was mistaken.

BTW - how did you ever get used to the backwardness of the safety lever? (LOL) That was something I felt like I just could never get the hang of.
 
1911

The 1911 has been around since 1911!!!! to present date 2011 best auto-hand gun , and dont worry about 8 round clips if needed for protection the 45auto you know is nicked named the man stopper!!for good reasons.I personally own a Springfield Armory model 1911-A1 45.
 
get the CZ...

Not liking the "poly coat" on a gun you shoot well and is a reliable design from a reputable manufacture is nit picking. The CZ design has been proven in combat and copied by legions of gun makers.
 
Of those, I'd get the CZ75

1911s are nice, but they are made to be 45s, and 45s just kick more. 1911s are not even the lightest kicking 45s. I think HKs are. The PX4 in 45 was very nice too, but it has the plastic thing going for it like the Glock does. It just doesn't encourage emotional bonding like metal does to me.

CZs are super nice. One of the best grip shapes ever. Bad DA triggers though. Fans say they smooth up with dry firing and use. The slide's a little harder to grip, since it runs inside the frame instead of outside. (this is supposed to make them more accurate) I'd buy one myself if I were in the market for another nine.

But earlier comments on the Hi-Power are right on. It is the perfect mix of a 1911 (single action, classic Browning design) and CZ75. (super comfortable grip, easy recoil) With a Hogue grip, it is even more comfortable than the CZ.

Saying generically that 1911 triggers are better is not really fair. They can be fantastic, but they can also be pretty heavy. The trigger on my Hi Power, even with the magazine disconnect still functional, is better (lighter) than that of my entry level 1911. The recoil is 1/2. The take-down is much easier and faster. The 1911's take-down is not hard, there are just a lot more steps to it.

I bought a Glock once, a 34, the modern competition 9mm. I'd wanted one all my life. But in the end, it was just pretty blah, and I sold it for something metal.

Here are my two guns that were talked about here, a Charles Daly Hi-Power in 9mm and a Para GI Expert in 1911:

Not particularly good shooting on my part, but there you have it.
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Pre-Hogue grips:
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If you have no loyalties, 9mm 1911s are a real joy to shoot. Nobody seems to want them, so you might be able to make a good deal on them. 38 Super is out, unless you hand-load or are pretty rich.
 
I own a .40 cal px4 that is double action only and my wife has the cz 75 compact in 9mm. both are great but i tend to enjoy to shoot the cz more (prob because of the single action) but i like to clean the px4 much more.
 
I think, I believe someone may have already pointed out, that since you really like how both shoot that you may want to consider which one you would carry the best as a deciding factor.

The cost of ammo can also be a deciding factor.

Shawn
 
I have both, and like both.(I have a Colt, and not a Kimber though) IMO a 1911, and a CZ 75 are 2 pistols every handgun fan should get.

The 1911 is very American, and a true classic. I wouldn't want to own another handgun without also owning a 1911. With that said I tend to kind of baby 1911's as I like to keep them like new. That's just me though.

A CZ 75 can be had in SA also, and you can get them in stainless of nickle plates, or duel tone, and the CZ will likely cost less than the Kimber. The CZ has great ergonomics, and is a natural pointer. JMO

Think hard about which one you like the best and go with it.
 
I would never let the cost of ammo be the deciding factor in a ccw gun. I'd either reload my practice ammo, or find a reliable person to reload it for me. I'veseen guys complain about having to spend $100 or a bit more on testing defensive ammo that can really make a difference, when they had a 1000 dollar gun! :) Since it's the bullet that does the stopping, and lots of fast hits with most types of ammo have failed, and since the gun normally doesn't have to be fired, I'll stick to $500 and less guns, thanks. It is likely to be siezed as evidence when I shoot or otherwise stop somebody, or have to be jettisoned, or be lost in a car wreck, fire, etc.
 
LOL. 50 rds is a "whole bunch of shooting, right? To evalute all the guns available in .45 ACP? :) Man, that is funny. I've had many, many a 1000 rd day at the shooting range. So has any other serious competitor. I'd say 100 rds per gun is giving them pretty short shrift, considering that you are talking about a life saving instrument.
 
I think there are still quite a few guns you could/should try. My first recomendation would be an HK P2000. If you're more budget minded a Ruger SR9. Not to mention Springfield XD, a vareity of Sig models, FNX or P if not too big for your purpose, etc. Personally, i'm not a fan of the 1911 for practical use. Fun guns but i feel there are far better options for practical use. Another option if 9 is hard on your shoulder would be to give a CZ82 a try.
 
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