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Discussion in 'Rifle Country' started by nekwah, Jan 8, 2009.

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  1. nekwah

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    Which scope for mini 14

    this is for a friend. Just bought a mini 14 and is looking at a scope for it. Especially looking at a nikon buckmaster or a Cabelas alaskan guide rangefinder, or a leupold. Im not really smart about scopes, my best one is O-simmons. Thought id ask. Sorry about the lack of info. Its a .223 so i suppose longest ranges are gonna be maybe 300 yds. Varmint rifle, mainly for coyotes. Gonna look at the Burris'es. Thanks
     
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  2. lipadj46

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    What ranges are you shooting, what are your applications (hunting, target...), do you need to shoot in low light, dawn, dusk inside etc.?
     
  3. dagger dog

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    I was enamored with my Mini the day I brought it home from the dealer, could't wait to dress it up with a scope.

    Ask yourself, what am I going to be shooting, varmints, targets, food?

    If your Mini is a 14 in .223 or a 30 in 7.62X39 or the 6.8 SPC .

    The run of the mill Mini 14 .223 with its slender barrel is not inaccurate, but is not a target rifle either, its brother Target version is a different story. The Mini-30 you can say just about the same as far as accuracy.
    The 6.8 SPC I couldn't tell you.

    So if you are going to be using the Mini for the application for what it was designed to fit , you most likley want a scope that is as compact as the rifle, you won't need a lot of XXX because the Mini is not designed for long range shooting, a
    2X7 or 3X9 variable serves the purpose and you can hit out to 200 yds and maybe beyond. Home defense you can set it down to 2or 3x and pick up close range targets. Want to pop that coyote thats standing out there at the edge of the fence ? Run it up to 7or9 and you can coun't his whiskers at 150 yds. Burris has a new for 2008 line out called the Timberline in short ,compact, fast, low mounting scopes.
    If your into the Tactical look check out the XTR with the .223 ballistic reticle.
     
  4. nekwah

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    any1 else
     
  5. Art Eatman

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    I used a Weaver K4 for years and years. Worked fine for jackrabbits and coyotes. I rarely needed to try for anything beyond a hundred yards or so. By and large, 4X is good to a long ways out, unless you're in the prairie dog business.
     
  6. lipadj46

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    OK I would get either a 1-4x variable like:

    421424M Bushnell 1.25-4x24 Elite 4200 Rifle Scope
    Matte
    4A w/ Illuminated Dot
    30mm
    Rainguard
    SWFA: $389.95

    5214359920 Zeiss 1.8-5.5x38 Conquest Rifle Scope
    Matte
    Z-Plex
    1"
    Etched Glass
    2nd Plane
    SWFA: $399.95


    200717 Burris 1.5-6x40 Signature Select Rifle Scope
    Matte
    Taper Plex
    1"
    Hunter Knobs
    SWFA: $373.95

    LEU55004 Leupold 1.5-5x20 VX-III Riflescope
    Gloss
    Heavy Duplex
    1"
    Index Matched Lens System
    SWFA: $359.96

    800471 Weaver 1.5-5x32 Grand Slam Rifle Scope
    Matte
    Dual-X
    1"
    SWFA: $329.95

    Or a bit higher variable scope like 3-9x (first 2 are great options):

    423944M Bushnell 3-9x40 Elite 4200 Rifle Scope
    Matte
    Multi-X
    1"
    Rainguard
    SWFA: $289.95

    8435 Nikon 3-9x40 Team Primos Riflescope
    Matte
    BDC
    1"
    Team Primos
    SWFA: $199.95

    5214609904 Zeiss 3-9x40 Conquest Rifle Scope
    Matte
    #4
    1"
    Etched Glass
    2nd Plane
    SWFA: $449.95

    NIK8437 Nikon 2-8x32 Monarch Riflescope
    Matte
    Nikoplex
    1"
    SWFA: $289.95

    LEU55032 Leupold 2.5-8x36 VX-III Riflescope
    Gloss
    Duplex
    1"
    Index Matched Lens System
    SWFA: $359.96

    SII39X42 Sightron 3-9x42 SII Riflescope
    Matte
    Plex
    1"
    SWFA: $199.95

    800473 Weaver 3-10x40 Grand Slam Rifle Scope
    Matte
    Dual-X
    1"
    SWFA: $319.95


    Is that enough? :)
     
  7. redneck2

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    Go over and look on ebay. Bushnell Elite 3200 3x9 for a little over $100 and free shipping. Elites are going WAY cheap. Burris Black Diamonds and Swarovskis are going for maybe $200-300 under local prices. Haven't looked at the anything else.

    http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=370140122015&ssPageName=STRK:MEWA:IT&ih=024

    Makes me want to go out and buy another rifle so I have an excuse to get a way good scope way cheap. There are multiple pages of the Bushnell Elites. You can beat those SWFA prices by maybe 40%
     
  8. nekwah

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    thanks for the info
     
  9. lipadj46

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    I prefer the 4200's to the 3200's but yes they are good scopes for the money but not really on the same level as the scopes I listed. Buy from where ever you can find the cheapest prices, I just use SWFA for reference though I would be careful about prices that are too low though as a scope costs a certain amount wholesale and companies are not known for giving away stuff.

    @ redneck Also please post links to where I can save 40% on the scopes listed above as I am looking for a new scope, seriously I am always looking for a deal. I am not talking the 3200 3-9x I mean the scopes I have listed above.
     
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  10. MCMXI

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    lipadj46, What ... no fixed power scopes to recommend? :D Given the abuse that a Mini supposedly subjects a scope to, and the fact that fixed power scopes are supposedly more rugged than variable power scopes, maybe a fixed power recommendation is in order.

    I had ordered a Leupold FX-11 6x from Optics Planet for my Mini-14 in late December but canceled the order last week since the FX-III is on sale at MidwayUSA and maybe other places too. The FX-II has Multicoated lenses (old technology) whereas the FX-III has Index Matched lenses (newer technology). I like to have options so even though the FX-II would probably be fine on the Mini, the FX-III with superior glass would work better in a low-light hunting scenario on one of my Remington 700s or a couple of Marlins in .45-70.

    :)
     
  11. theotherwaldo

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    Of all of the carbines in existence, the standard Mini-14 is the one that is least improved by a scope. (My personal opinion.)

    I bought one at a pawn shop a few months back for about the price of the Leupold variable scope and the nice bi-pod, both of which now grace another gun.

    I like the Mini, but it's just not a 300 yard gun.
     
  12. redneck2

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    dude....just go to ebay and search for what you want. There are hundreds there and any brand you want. Bushnell alone probably has several hundred.

    I just went back and looked at the auction I had listed. The NIB 3200 3x9x40 went for just over $100. That's what you'd pay for a Trashco, BSA, or Swift.

    There are Burris Black Diamonds in 4x16x50 that are going for just over $300. IIRC, I paid $575 for a Signature locally, and that was discounted off list. These are absolutely super screaming deals. It's off hunting season, after Christmas, and I guess these guys want to move them.

    I wouldn't get too nutty about bidding on the very first thing you see. They are there all the time now.
     
  13. lipadj46

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    All the scopes in that list will handle a Mini-14's recoil most of them are tested with large magnums for something like 1000-10000 rounds. a 2.5x, 6x, 7x or even a 10 super sniper would work also for less money than a variable. This day and age though any good variable will be as tough as a fixed scope. I do like the 10x Leupold mk4 though that is a nice tactical scope.
     
  14. CB900F

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    Nekwah;

    T'were me, I'd go for the Leupold VXII 3-9 that you listed as a possibility. Can not beat the warranty & customer service. It's tough, it's good glass, and it'll do the job.

    Yeah, it's more money than some, but you honestly do get what you pay for in glass. If you can snag one cheap on e-bay, do it & good for you. But, there have been reports of Leupold knock-offs being sold there at killer prices. If you get one of those Leupold will, of course, not stand behind it as they didn't make it. And e-bay doesn't seem to be too awfully interested in doing much about it considering their well-documented stance on firearms & related equipment.

    900F
     
  15. X-Rap

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    Just be sure to get one with a big enough fov to see where the bullets hit:D
    Mini-14 = the most $ for least accuracy available.
     
  16. rangerruck

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    the nikon will do just fine...
     
  17. lipadj46

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    I stopped using ebay a few years ago as I found I was able to get similar or better deals without having to deal with ebay's fees and getting hit with paypal fees (talking from a selling and buying perspective). I just did a quick search for completed Zeiss Conquest and Bushnell 4200 and honestly did not see much that would tempt me to get back into ebay. I'm sure there are deals to be had for the patient but in general I have found that stupid bidders generally push the price of the good stuff up to the point where it is not worth it. And the budget stuff like 3200's I'm personally not too interested in at the moment.
     
  18. lipadj46

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    double tap... Seems like there are some bugs in those upgrades from the other night
     
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