Quantcast
  1. This site uses cookies. By continuing to use this site, you are agreeing to our use of cookies. Learn More.

Which trigger characteristic do you feel hinders accuracy the most?

Discussion in 'General Gun Discussions' started by Snowdog, Mar 2, 2005.

?

Which of the following do you feel adversely affects accuracy the most?

  1. A heavy trigger

    35.7%
  2. A gritty trigger

    32.7%
  3. A spongy trigger

    8.9%
  4. An excessively long trigger pull

    22.6%
Thread Status:
Not open for further replies.
  1. Snowdog

    Snowdog Member

    Joined:
    Dec 24, 2002
    Messages:
    3,942
    Location:
    Hendersonville, WNC
    Out of curiosity, which of the attributes in the poll do you feel hinders accuracy the most.

    Also, which of the listed characteristics is the lesser evil that you'd be willing to tolerate assuming your firearm had such an affliction?
     
  2. foghornl

    foghornl Member

    Joined:
    Dec 27, 2002
    Messages:
    7,403
    A trigger pull that feels "gritty", like trying to slide 2 sheets of coarse sandpaper face-to-face.
     
  3. SRYnidan

    SRYnidan Member

    Joined:
    Jan 4, 2003
    Messages:
    250
    Location:
    Las Vegas, NV
    Tworst has to be a gritty one generaly shows the poorest manufacturing as well.
     
  4. EghtySx

    EghtySx Member

    Joined:
    Apr 10, 2004
    Messages:
    607
    Location:
    Dallas, TX
    I voted heavy. I have had pistols with heavy trigger pulls and when dry firing and looking closely through the sights you can see em move as you put increasing force against it to get it to break.
     
  5. Third_Rail

    Third_Rail Member

    Joined:
    Jan 10, 2004
    Messages:
    4,981
    None of the above. I can shoot them all fairly accurately....


    Thanks to airguns, I learned to just deal with bad triggers and adapt. :)
     
  6. Nazirite

    Nazirite Member

    Joined:
    Aug 10, 2003
    Messages:
    349
    Location:
    From Tennessee to Ohio to Oklahoma
    I vote for excessively long trigger pull but I have very little experience with the other problems. I shoot much better with my 1911 Colt than my Berreta (very long trigger pull)
     
  7. mtnbkr

    mtnbkr Member

    Joined:
    Dec 25, 2002
    Messages:
    3,108
    Location:
    Manassas, Va
    I vote heavy. I shoot DA revolvers, so long works fine. Gritty or spongy don't bother me as much either.

    I actually prefer a light, long triggerpull. My GP100, Kel-Tec P32, and Kahr K9 all fit this description.

    Chris
     
  8. Cool Hand Luke 22:36

    Cool Hand Luke 22:36 member

    Joined:
    Oct 19, 2003
    Messages:
    2,291
    Location:
    Arlington, VA
    Excessively long trigger pull.

    It seems like you wait all day while pulling the trigger on a pistol like the Ruger P89. It means you wind up having to concentrate much harder, for a longer period of time.
     
  9. alex-v.

    alex-v. Member

    Joined:
    Jan 4, 2005
    Messages:
    72
    Location:
    SE Mich
    The heavy trigger pull seems to torque the gun to the side or over which is why is seems to be the worst.
     
  10. MoNsTeR

    MoNsTeR Member

    Joined:
    Dec 29, 2002
    Messages:
    790
    Location:
    Lakewood, CO
    Gritty/Creepy.

    A 6-7lb crisp 1911 trigger is easy.
    A "spongy" Glock or Ruger trigger is easy.
    A long DA revolver or Beretta/SIG/S&W pull is a matter of technique.
    But a gritty/creepy pull is something I just can't stand.
     
  11. landon74

    landon74 Member

    Joined:
    Mar 5, 2003
    Messages:
    350
    Location:
    DFW
    I really hate an excessively long trigger pull, I agree a heavy trigger pull hurts accuracy as well. But when I get the correct sight picture and engage the trigger, taking what feels like a mile of slack out of the trigger before it fires, chances are the gun has moved...
     
  12. Werewolf

    Werewolf Member

    Joined:
    Sep 12, 2003
    Messages:
    4,192
    Location:
    Oklahoma
    Toss up between excessively long and spongy.

    Spongy won though since I can live with a long trigger pull as long as it's not heavy and is smooth.

    I can't live with spongy though for some reason. This is why I got rid of the one and only glock I ever owned. That darned trigger made me nuts and I never could get used to it and fire the G22 with any accuracy.

    Heavy is OK as long as it's not combined with any one of the other 3 choices.

    I've never experienced gritty so can't talk to that.
     
  13. dleong

    dleong Member

    Joined:
    Dec 27, 2002
    Messages:
    521
    Location:
    Where Am I?
    Based on the choice of responses, I voted a heavy trigger.

    However, truth be told, my accuracy really suffers when there's a guy in the next lane shooting his 325 gr. handloads out of his 454 Casull Ruger Super Redhawk.


    DL
     
  14. J Miller

    J Miller Member

    Joined:
    Dec 25, 2002
    Messages:
    874
    Location:
    Central IL
    I voted 'heavy'. Like some of the others I've done a lot of double action shooting, so a long pull doesn't bother me. My favorite OM Ruger Black Hawk has a two stage pull, yet it breaks around 3 pounds, I keep saying I'm going to get the sear recut, but I never do.
    I'm one of those that has shot 3 pound triggers so long that when I get a heavy pull, 4 pounds or over I start anticipating let off. And my accuracy goes to pot.
    Yet to confuse my issue, a decent 1911 with a 4-5 pound trigger doesn't bother me....too much.
    Plus when ever you encounter a real heavy trigger pull it's usually, but not always, combined with other factors such as the gritty, spongy, long, and staged. This really kills accuracy for me.


    Joe
     
  15. geekWithA.45

    geekWithA.45 Moderator Emeritus

    Joined:
    Jan 1, 2003
    Messages:
    9,056
    Location:
    SouthEast PA
    Heavy.

    Some of these 10-12 and even 15 pound factory triggers are preposterous.

    Granted, you don't want a 3 pound trigger on a carry revo, but 10+ is rediculous.
     
  16. mjb

    mjb Member.

    Joined:
    Dec 8, 2004
    Messages:
    324
    Location:
    Florence, Kentucky
    In My Opinion, Taurus revolvers, and most post 82 S&W pistols. The exception is early 90's L frames revolvers. S&W autos are also bad.
     
  17. P95Carry

    P95Carry Moderator Emeritus

    Joined:
    Jan 3, 2003
    Messages:
    16,341
    Location:
    South PA, and a bit West of center!
    Poundage per se is less of a worry to me than - ''gritty'', which I call ''creep'', erratic ... similar vice. Then yeah - excessively long pull is far from desirable.

    So -- from choice - medium (safe) poundage of intermediate pull length and - like butter!:) - oh and - consistent.
     
  18. pax

    pax Member

    Joined:
    Dec 24, 2002
    Messages:
    9,762
    Location:
    Washington state
    A heavy trigger can certainly affect accuracy, especially for a new shooter. But for someone who's pulled a trigger a few gazillion times, if the trigger is heavy but smooth it really isn't difficult to adapt (well, apart from problems such as a sore trigger finger).

    Mushy triggers -- such as the factory trigger on a Glock -- don't affect accuracy at all for people who are used to them. Some folks even prefer such triggers, hard as it may be for an SA fan to understand.

    People easily adapt to excessively long trigger pulls. Some folks prefer them.

    So my vote is for gritty. All of the problems above are consistent. Because they are consistent, they can be adapted to and overcome. But grittiness is, by nature, inconsistent. Inconsistency leads to inaccuracy.

    pax
     
  19. Ktulu

    Ktulu Member

    Joined:
    Nov 6, 2003
    Messages:
    1,071
    Location:
    Michigan
    Gritty = bad.
     
  20. Nitram68

    Nitram68 Member

    Joined:
    Jan 17, 2005
    Messages:
    375
    gritty for me. I can deal with everything else but gritty is inconsistant and therefore I can't keep a constant squeeze....
     
  21. 30Cal

    30Cal Member

    Joined:
    Feb 11, 2004
    Messages:
    2,298
    Location:
    Albany, NY
    Inconsistant (which I think we're calling "gritty") is unforgivable.

    Ty
     
  22. Bear Gulch

    Bear Gulch Member

    Joined:
    Feb 19, 2005
    Messages:
    1,235
    Location:
    Idaho
    Spongy where you really cannot feel were you are gaining the needed tension to break the sear. I like crisp, heavy is fine long is fine as long as they are crisp.
     
  23. Poodleshooter

    Poodleshooter Member

    Joined:
    Dec 30, 2002
    Messages:
    1,237
    Location:
    Mr. Jefferson's country
    This is what kills me,and what I refer to as "spongy". I can't shoot Ruger or Glock autos very well. To me, spongy means that the feel of the sear about to trip is indistinct or that it feels like it just won't roll over. It's the opposite of crisp as mentioned above.
    I don't know that I've ever felt a trigger such as the ones folks are referring to as "gritty".Can anyone give an example of a gun whose trigger feels "gritty" for comparison purposes?
     
  24. io333

    io333 Member

    Joined:
    May 1, 2004
    Messages:
    231
    A few years ago I would have said gritty. But a while back I borrowed a friends rifle, a Savage 116 in .308, that had a slightly over 11 (measured!) pound pull from the factory. To compound that, there were raised sharp lines (cast into the metal) running down each side of the trigger, that were cutting through my skin with each pull. :what: The rifle was for all practical purposes unusable. The owner was complaining it wouldn't group. :scrutiny: Maybe the Brady Bunch was involved in that trigger design: sure you can have a firearm, but every time you decide to use it it'll slice your finger off!


    So a heavy trigger with knife edges gets my vote over gritty any day.
     
  25. Bobarino

    Bobarino member

    Joined:
    Mar 12, 2003
    Messages:
    1,625
    Location:
    western Washington
    none of the above. quit 'cher whinin' and shoot the stupid thing. sheesh. wah wah wah, my trigger's too mushy/spongy/long/gritty. its the poor musician that blames his instrument. now ya'll excuse me while i go duck and cover from the oncoming flamin'.

    Bobby
     
Thread Status:
Not open for further replies.

Share This Page