Whitney Navy dissasembly
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Turn the knob on the frame 1/2 turn to loosen the loading lever assembly. Pull that assembly out. Then it's the same as a Remington - cock the hammer about 1/4 to 1/3 as you rotate the cylinder out of the frame.
What do you have for a Whitney?
Same as a Spiller & Burr
What do you have for a Whitney?
Same as a Spiller & Burr
The Spiller & Burr was a copy of the Whitney, but what model Whitney? Probably an earlier Whitney. And was it an exact copy or a general design? Depends on what you read.
What's the serial number on yours? Mine is 13989 on the frame and 14024 on the barrel (off by 35). Military marks on several parts, too.
I actually fired mine a few months ago. It's in great shape.
Bottom of trigger guard (before I cleaned it up). Note the Whitney Eagle to the left of the serial number.
What's the serial number on yours? Mine is 13989 on the frame and 14024 on the barrel (off by 35). Military marks on several parts, too.
I actually fired mine a few months ago. It's in great shape.
Bottom of trigger guard (before I cleaned it up). Note the Whitney Eagle to the left of the serial number.
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Yes, Palmetto makes a Whitney repro. I have one and yup, got it from Dixie.
The revolver is OK but the wood grips leave something to be desired. One side looks like it suffered smallpox as a kid ...
Palmetto is said to be about the lowest on the totem pole in so far as quality. I have one of their Roots revolvers and the barrel is on crooked.
On the Whitney repro I noticed the nipples have washers underneath them. I wonder if the originals do? I don't know why but, hey, Palmetto must have had a reason so I put 'em back when I'm through cleaning.
Whether DGW makes repro parts I don't know, but they are usually very helpful if you call them.
The revolver is OK but the wood grips leave something to be desired. One side looks like it suffered smallpox as a kid ...
Palmetto is said to be about the lowest on the totem pole in so far as quality. I have one of their Roots revolvers and the barrel is on crooked.
On the Whitney repro I noticed the nipples have washers underneath them. I wonder if the originals do? I don't know why but, hey, Palmetto must have had a reason so I put 'em back when I'm through cleaning.
Whether DGW makes repro parts I don't know, but they are usually very helpful if you call them.
Mine doesn't have washers under the nipples - maybe a different model did.
How does the cylinder of yours compare to the one I have (on the right in the pic of the cylinders). I wonder if they match.
I want a Root - is the one from Palmetto worth getting?
How does the cylinder of yours compare to the one I have (on the right in the pic of the cylinders). I wonder if they match.
I want a Root - is the one from Palmetto worth getting?
Tommygunn
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The cylinder in my Palmetto Whitney looks almost identical to the Spiller & Burr cylinder on the left, rather than the real Whitney as on the right. Whether or not they'd interchange ... dunno. There's an obvious difference in how the ratchet slots are machined that the pawl moves but I don't know what that means.
The safety slots on the Palmetto also more closely resemble the Spiller & Burrs slots rather than the ones on your original. Thanks to the way Palmetto machined the hammer (incorrect profile) they are totally useless on the Palmetto; the heel of the hammer hits the base of the cylinder. A Dremel might correct that should I somehow come to believe that using the safety slots was important. Palmetto .... *!SIGH!*
I know I have a Pietta Spiller & Burr and the two cylinders will not interchange. Nor will the arbors change.
The Root revolver is a very interesting one.
As I said, the barrel on mine wasn't indexed correctly. On Roots the cylinder index (or locks) on the rear end of the arbor. There are no slots milled into the cylinder. The arbor rotates and the locking lock pops up from below at the rear of the gun.
This works because the arbor has a square piece machined on the front that fits into a mating part on the cylinder. Because of this weird set-up, when reassembling the gun from cleaning, if you don't "guess right" when seating the cylinder, the revolver will index exactly in between the chambers, necessitating a do over ... and a better guess.
Because of the high price these go for I am going to say I ultimatly do not think they're really worth it.
The gun indexes OK (when I guess right about re assembly) but it's a little loose sideways. The wood grips are crudely finished, though perfectly serviceable.
I'm sure if Uberti made this they might charge more but make a better product in the end. If the Palmetto was cheaper then I'd say OK ... it's rather like the old Armi San Marco guns. They did work but weren't always as "pretty" as they could be -- especially in the company's later years.
If you're in a position where you can't afford big expenditures and want good results then I would advise you to pass on the Root.
The safety slots on the Palmetto also more closely resemble the Spiller & Burrs slots rather than the ones on your original. Thanks to the way Palmetto machined the hammer (incorrect profile) they are totally useless on the Palmetto; the heel of the hammer hits the base of the cylinder. A Dremel might correct that should I somehow come to believe that using the safety slots was important. Palmetto .... *!SIGH!*
I know I have a Pietta Spiller & Burr and the two cylinders will not interchange. Nor will the arbors change.
The Root revolver is a very interesting one.
As I said, the barrel on mine wasn't indexed correctly. On Roots the cylinder index (or locks) on the rear end of the arbor. There are no slots milled into the cylinder. The arbor rotates and the locking lock pops up from below at the rear of the gun.
This works because the arbor has a square piece machined on the front that fits into a mating part on the cylinder. Because of this weird set-up, when reassembling the gun from cleaning, if you don't "guess right" when seating the cylinder, the revolver will index exactly in between the chambers, necessitating a do over ... and a better guess.
Because of the high price these go for I am going to say I ultimatly do not think they're really worth it.
The gun indexes OK (when I guess right about re assembly) but it's a little loose sideways. The wood grips are crudely finished, though perfectly serviceable.
I'm sure if Uberti made this they might charge more but make a better product in the end. If the Palmetto was cheaper then I'd say OK ... it's rather like the old Armi San Marco guns. They did work but weren't always as "pretty" as they could be -- especially in the company's later years.
If you're in a position where you can't afford big expenditures and want good results then I would advise you to pass on the Root.
Thanks for the tip. I saw an original Root in Maine not too long ago that was within reason - well, within reason for my defective brain.
I'd like to find another deal like I got on the Whitney - the store where I bought it didn't think it was an original, even though it says "E.Whitney N.Haven" on the barrel. One salesman said it was a pre-Italian repro, that's why there are no proof marks on it. Another salesman said parts of it are original. I think the only "new" part is the turning knob for the loading lever assembly. They sold it to me for $350.
I'd like to find another deal like I got on the Whitney - the store where I bought it didn't think it was an original, even though it says "E.Whitney N.Haven" on the barrel. One salesman said it was a pre-Italian repro, that's why there are no proof marks on it. Another salesman said parts of it are original. I think the only "new" part is the turning knob for the loading lever assembly. They sold it to me for $350.
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