Discussion in 'General Gun Discussions' started by Mark1964, Sep 18, 2020.
I get that. Truth is, I did kick out of just cleaning up, tuning up and breaking in that little LCP...and that was a very simple project.
Still astounds me that (a) someone gave up on it so fast and (b) traded it in dirty.
Lot of dudes here pointed out that tons of people don't clean their firearms regularly, and they're fight. It's just such an alien idea to me. Dad insisted we do it, and the habit's never left me.
I work for a fairly good sized dealer and we don't clean used guns unless they are so dirty they have function or cosmetic issues. Just being dirty doesn't typically lower the price of a trade nor does it lower the final sale price enough to make the cleaning cost worthwhile. I don't ever trade in but if I did I certainly wouldn't clean a gun before handing it over for half of what it's worth, in fact I'm pretty sure it would still be quite warm at the time
When I started collecting a gunsmith friend of mine who I trusted implicitly told me that more guns were screwed up during cleaning than anything else. I took this to heart and while I do run a bore snake after range sessions I rarely deep clean my guns unless they need it. Most of my collection is older and out of production so if I lose a pin, spring, or worse break something it hurts the value way worse than being dirty.
In the early part of the 20th century shooters learned that cleaning was still very necessary because the corrosive priming compounds would very surely rust the bore if the gun weren’t cleaned after shooting.
Today, such cleaning is totally unnecessary, but old habits die hard.
I'm sure there is some truth in this, but I don't think I'll ever be able to consider a basic field strip and clean as unnecessary. Don't know if it's conditioning, pride of ownership or some combo, but they get put up clean at my house.
Two points - I'm sure you carefully inspected it before buying and saw the grit. Also, since you asked, my guns are always kept clean whether they are to be sold, shot, or just stored. I guess some people are just lazy.... anyway, enjoy your purchase.
Oh, absolutely did notice the grit. Price was right, though, and that pistol is a bit hard to find these days. I figured (correctly) I could put it right in no time. Plus, already own one LCP Gen 1, so have mags, holsters, etc.
I think my added cost setting this one right (minus the nominal cost of materials from my bench) was $16 for a pair of recoil springs, including shipping. I did then add some Talon grips (the granulate ones), so call that another $21.50. I really like those on a wee .380. So, in the end, was quite happy.
I don't know why, but people not cleaning their guns kind of saddens me. I don't know, to me, seems you get a lot of utlity for a little effort.
He takes a filthy gun in on pawn,,,
And doesn't clean it at all.
Just puts it in the case for sale.
Like I said I rag on him all the dang time,,,
I say, "How can you expect me to buy a gun when I can't even see the bore?"
He just points to the cleaning rod hanging on the wall.
I'm with you there! I clean all of our guns before putting them out for sale.
I've handled used guns offered to us for pawn or sale and had to wash my hands before typing up the transaction. I can understand that, sometimes someone brings in a gun that someone in their family left to them for which they have no working knowledge, but I can't understand a shop not wanting their merchandise look as good as possible.
I've never bought such a gun because this ...might be... a Deceptive tactic to hide the condition. If it is part of a large collection which was recently inherited, that's a very different scenario.
This is in regard to gun shows.
The salesman said that he got a filthy 1953 Russian SKS in yesterday.
Before he could do more than wipe it down, someone offered him more than he had planned to price the gun at.
The gun got a super-basic cleaning and went right back out the door.
Sometimes a dirty gun is not the fault of the seller... .
If you don’t buy the gun, does he pay you for cleaning it for him?
This was my only suggestion.
The retail business has so much more going on-even before the recent “The sky is falling” anxiety among many buyers.
I've not thought of that,,,
I'll try it next time.
After giving it some Hoppes #9 love, it looked brand new and had a butter smooth trigger. Not a bad buy for $300.
This is my belief.
I don’t change my oil after every trip across town. I don’t polish and wax my mower after each use. I don’t clean my gutters when a leaf falls in them.
Same thing with my guns. I don’t detail strip a pistol or yank the bcg of my rifle just because I shot 100 rounds. Add some lube, wipe down the muzzle of a pistol and call it good.
There’s a whole lot of middle ground between white glove clean and so disgusting that it impacts the function and reliability of the gun.
If people want to clean them after each range visit because it’s how they’ve been taught or how they’ve always done it or because they simply enjoy the process, have at it, but let’s all at least accept the fact that it’s not necessary with modern firearms and ammunition.
As far as cleaning it before selling it? I wouldn’t sell someone a dirty gun, that’s just me.
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