Who chooses an XD over others because of the grip safety
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momano
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I'm glad my XD9 has it; but I would've bought it without it.
mgmorden
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Opposite reaction: when I was in the market for a competition/range gun I found I very good deal on a used 5" XD 9mm. I could have saved about $150 (probably $200 considering that this gun game with holster and mag pouches) over the M&P that I eventually ended up getting, but in the end I passed on it because of the grip safety.
I just don't like the concept. If I pull the trigger I want the gun to go bang. I don't want any little gizmos in the way of that simple truth. I've had a 1911 before, and tolerated it, but still didn't like it. There's a reason why so many 1911 guys disable it.
I just don't like the concept. If I pull the trigger I want the gun to go bang. I don't want any little gizmos in the way of that simple truth. I've had a 1911 before, and tolerated it, but still didn't like it. There's a reason why so many 1911 guys disable it.
I own a service in .40. I have never, not ever, had the pistol fail to shoot because my grip didn't depress the grip safety. I would argue that if you had such a poor grip on the gun you shouldn't be pulling the trigger. I would also argue that if you did pull the trigger you wouldn't have enough control to hit anything. The grip safety spring is so light that you really can't even feel the safety tang in your hand.
The reason I like the GS is that I can re-holster with more safety. It seems like a lot of time the no manual safety striker fired guns are ND'ed when re-holstering, due to clothing interference, poor finger discipline...etc. I take my thumb and place it on the rear sight, this allows me to control the pistol while activating the safety while re-holstering.
Personal preference to be sure but I feel there is very little risk of the firearm not going bang when it is supposed to.
The reason I like the GS is that I can re-holster with more safety. It seems like a lot of time the no manual safety striker fired guns are ND'ed when re-holstering, due to clothing interference, poor finger discipline...etc. I take my thumb and place it on the rear sight, this allows me to control the pistol while activating the safety while re-holstering.
Personal preference to be sure but I feel there is very little risk of the firearm not going bang when it is supposed to.
I like the KISS principle when it comes to things I might have to use in tense situations.
CoRoMo
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The grip safety has never once caused any issues for me. It was not a reason that I bought the XD either. If I had my druthers, it wouldn't be there, but since it isn't in my way, I don't care that it is there. I never actually think about it, because it doesn't give me any reason to think about it. I forget that it is there.
harmon rabb
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This. It's nice to have, but I'd buy a XD without one.
In my opinion the grip safety is a useless marketing gizmo. Sort of a security blanket to make some folks feel better. I can't think of a single situation where it would realistically make the gun a bit safer. They are far more likely to prevent the gun from firing when you want it to, than they are to prevent the gun from firing when you don't want it to. It is possible to dream up a possible scenario, but the odds of me being struck by lightning are far more probable. A thumb safety that operates just like a 1911 would be something I could live with and would actually be a safety advantage.
I owned an XD for a while and the grip makes it more difficult to field strip the gun and is simply one more thing to go wrong when you really need the gun to work.
FWIW I feel the same way about 1911's. They would be a better gun without them. But I tolerate them on an otherwise excellent gun.
verdun59
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I like the grip safety, and I must be doing something wrong because my XD is one of the easiest guns I own to strip down .
mdauben
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I voted "other" becuase I would not own a gun with a grip safety.
I had trouble in the past with a 1911's grip safety's not consistently disengaging when held. Perhaps I'm an anaomoly, but based on my experience I would never trust a gun with a grip safety in a SD situation.
I had trouble in the past with a 1911's grip safety's not consistently disengaging when held. Perhaps I'm an anaomoly, but based on my experience I would never trust a gun with a grip safety in a SD situation.
Valkman
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I like 1911's primarily but have bought 2 4" XD45's because they have a grip safety. Love'em!
Andrew Wyatt
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I don't have a problem with the gripsafety on my 1911.
I just don't think they're necessary.
I just don't think they're necessary.
bigfatdave
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Holstering, you take the hand OFF the grip safety and hold the gun with your thumb on top of the slide ... with the XD - and other guns with a striker indicator on the slide's rear - you even get the bonus of feeling if the striker is being pulled back BEFORE the gun goes "BANG"jmr40 said:
You remove the grip interlock for routine cleaning and maintenance? Perhaps yours IS more likely to fail during use, it isn't designed to come off as often as the slide.jmr40 said:
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So what was wrong inside that 1911? Was in unfixable? Was it a result of Bubba or Danny Dremel doing a "trigger job" on the gun?mdauben said:
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I like the grip safety, and if Springfield/HS would make a singlestack 9x19mm about the size of my Walther PPS with the grip safety and the XD trigger I'd buy it the day of release. (or a .45acp about the size of my 3.5" 1911) ... that would be about the same height/length of a xd9sc or xd45c
They're a major factor in picking a gun for me, I like passive safety devices, and only want manual safety devices on handguns with extremely light triggers.
The grip safety was a complete non-factor in my decision. At the time I bought mine (in 2007) I was contemplating getting either a XD or a Glock. The fact the XD had more chamber support was the deciding factor.
I do like the fact that I can keep my hand off the grip safety when reholstering & know there is zero chance of shooting myself in the leg. It was not a factor in my purchase decision though.
I do like the fact that I can keep my hand off the grip safety when reholstering & know there is zero chance of shooting myself in the leg. It was not a factor in my purchase decision though.
Inebriated
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Haven't bought one, but I played with a couple XD's while waiting for some paper work stuff at the last show... gotta say, it is one of the most comfortable handguns to hold, right behind the Sig P226 for me. I will be getting one at some point as a range gun, so I am not/won't be bothered by the grip safety.
I wouldn't choose an XD(m) because it has a grip safety, but I wouldn't pass it over because it has one either, so I'll vote non-issue i.e. little or no difference in my decision.
I've shot an XDm chambered in .45 ACP and I have nothing bad to say about it. 12"x12" plates were easy to hit at 65 yards, the gun was brand new (my neighbors) but we shot a variety of ammunition including factory and reloads (> 100 rounds in all) without a single problem, and as a regular 1911 shooter, the grip safety was a non-issue. I seem to remember that it was a bit tough on the brass compared to my SIGs and 1911s, but other than that it was an excellent pistol.
I've shot an XDm chambered in .45 ACP and I have nothing bad to say about it. 12"x12" plates were easy to hit at 65 yards, the gun was brand new (my neighbors) but we shot a variety of ammunition including factory and reloads (> 100 rounds in all) without a single problem, and as a regular 1911 shooter, the grip safety was a non-issue. I seem to remember that it was a bit tough on the brass compared to my SIGs and 1911s, but other than that it was an excellent pistol.
Plan2Live
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So I am assuming you disabled that articulating trigger saftey gizmo on the M&P?
The grip saftey combined with the "Safe Action Trigger" were significant factors in my choice for a Conceal Carry Weapon. After buying it and carrying it around in my vehicle but not yet on my person, I am wishing I had gone with a gun with a true hammer and Double Action/Single trigger. I can not yet bring myself to concealed carry a Striker fired pistol with a round in the chamber. I am very happy with the gun, but am not comfortable with the action for CC. I will probably be buying something else to carry, like a S&W CS9, CZ Rami BD, Sig 239 or something similar.
eazyrider
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I bought a Glock because I was new to firearms at the time and they had a good rep. I don't regret it at all but the fact that is was safety free was of no matter to me. Grip safety or not I don't care. If it goes bang every time I pull the trigger then it is a keeper.
I like the grip safety, but it's not a deal stopper. Its invisible; get a firing grip and it is depressed. no big deal. If it isn't, Springfield will fix it.
They could put a thumb safety on all models and drop the grip safety and I'd be fine.
They could put a thumb safety on all models and drop the grip safety and I'd be fine.
Carbonator
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I will not buy a gun with a grip safety so I have never even considered buying an XD. I think Springfield made a huge mistake keeping the grip safety - just look at the percentage of posters in this thread who dislike the grip safety. I don't even bother looking at the new XD articles in the gun magazines which I usually read every month, just because of the grip safety. It is unnecessary and redundant, complicates the design, adds to the cost of the gun and of course adds just one more thing to worry about concerning grip or mechanical failure. Plus the lever sits inside a depression so I just don't trust it. I even started a thread not too long ago where I asked if a grip safety ever prevented someone from firing. So come on Springfield please listen up. And lower that bore axis while yer at it.
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