Discussion in 'NFA Firearms and Accessories' started by Havok7416, Feb 1, 2017.
Jackal, any features that make it better than others in your opinion? I'm looking at the specs for it and it seems pretty good. It says it includes a taper mount brake, but I have no idea if that's a huge improvement or just a freebie type item.
The taper mounts are handy for switching it between rifles and they barely effect point of impact. Its a good combination of low weight, extremely durable, decent price and above all else, its quiet. It also works better than a lot of dedicated 5.56 silencers when used on 5.56 due to its extra volume. One thing I learned while silencer shopping, quiet counts. The Recce makes my AR10 and AR15 sound like a .22lr rifle. It was either the Recce 7 or a new Sig silencer. Performance is almost identical, but I just dont like what the Sig's or their muzzle adapters look like.
You say that now...
I have to further echo pdsmith's comment. There's a high probability that you'll get less and less excited about shooting 'unsuppressed' once you get that first suppressor - and for that reason, I'd highly recommend going after something that can be utilized with a multitude of cartridges.
Here's a little info & testing on about half a dozen of the more popular 30-cals on the market.
300blk dedicated unit....User servicable.
The muzzle brake taper mount (or other style mounts from other companies) also acts as a sacrificial baffle, somewhat protecting your silencer baffles from erosion.
*I should note, changing the end cap is unnecessary but you can do it if you want
As addicting as everyone says suppressors are, I have had dozens upon dozens of people also tell me the same about reloading and I hate it. In the case of reloading, the only reason I do it is to bring the price of shooting down to a manageable level. In the case of the suppressor, I am only looking into one because I happen to have a gun that it will work with.
I certainly won't be going out of my way to buy any new barrels or have my current ones threaded. I have no intention of purchasing any more guns (the rifle was acquired on a trade) and I don't have any more guns I'm looking to trade.
Sorry I can't help you much as I just received my 762-SDN-6 and my brother opted for the AAC Cyclone (he's more into precision rifles).
I did quite a bit of research before buying - as you found (and I talked with the guys at AAC), the 762-SDN-6 was designed / optimized for the 300 Blackout round - they Cyclone is not a threaded version of the 762-SDN-6 (well you can tell that by looking at it) as the Cyclone was designed more for precision shooting.
I bought one of the Remington 700 SPS Tacticals in 300 Blackout for the can, but I haven't shot the gun yet either! I did loan the gun to a predator hunter to try out the ATN Night Vision, but that was before I got the can.
AFA it being the best (everyone seems to think theirs is, with little / nothing to back it up), I can't tell ya.
When I bought my Element 2 and M4-2000, there was a video floating around comparing sound levels and flash, which weighed heavily on my decision to buy those cans. I'm hoping the 762-SDN-6 works as well.
Other than that, 'bout all I could do was compare weight, length, price, db reduction (everybody probably fibs).
I don't know how AAC is going to do in the future since Remington bought them out, but I have to wonder about some of these numerous companies popping up. One has to wonder how much testing / research they're doing?
BTW - the 762-SDN-6 "should" come with a QD mount - mine did.
Perhaps you could post a review of yours here when you finally do shoot it. I looked all over this site and I couldn't find very much information that would make the decision process easier.
I have also wondered about all the different companies I have seen. While I have never owned an NFA device of any kind, I haven't heard of many of the companies that pop up during a search. I did notice that most of them do not post their sound reduction for a given suppressor. I would have thought that would be one of the most important specifications customers would be looking for.
I did see that the 762-SDN-6 came with a QD mount. I read a review (I think it was The Truth About Guns) where he said he didn't like that feature because it broke in 3 years or something like that. I intend to mount whatever suppressor I get to my AR and hopefully leave it there. I understand many rifle cans cannot be taken apart due to the pressure issues associated with rifle cartridges, but maybe that's a bunch of nonsense and I heard wrong.
I don't know when I'll get out to the range - so busy looking out for other folks' problems that my time seems to be limited these days. I'm also waiting for the weather to break - every warm day we have lately is windy as heck.
True, and AAC did a pretty good job of posting theirs back when I bought my first cans - at the time a lot of folks didn't, but who knows if you can believe the results of some (if not all) company's posted figures.
There was a bit of a flap going around about the 51T mounting the 762-SDN-6 uses, but I think it was probably overblown.
Rifle caliber cans that can be taken apart appear to be a relatively new development, and one I wonder if it's really necessary? Modular cans would be convenient if you had a baffle strike at the end (where they tend to happen) as you could just replace the end cap.
Folks I know that shoot 22 thru their rifle cans say they just shoot a few rifle rounds thru them and it appears to do a good job of cleaning out 22 residue - 22's are usually the most dirty.
I'm pretty new to the silencer game - got my first cans around 3 years ago, but I've been doing a ton of research (before and after buying).
FWIW, here's a little video with the 762-SDN-6:
EDIT: Forgot to add - in the video above, notice when he screws on the can he holds the button down instead of letting the teeth ratchet - I also did that from day one, as it's only going to save the teeth.
It was reported that AAC had some QD mounts go out the door without proper heat treating, and the teeth on the mounts were prematurely wearing out.
AAC also notes the system is not a retention device, but a locking device.
I think some folks were screwing them on so tight the last tooth would not engage, evidenced by the pushbutton not popping up. AAC sez back off one tooth to allow full engagement (hence the "it's not a retention system but a locking system").
When properly mounted, you should see the pushbutton pop up instead of being slightly depressed.
EDIT II: Corrected the AAC quote, which I had backwards! They say "it's a locking system, not a retention system".
Yes you can - Midway USA has often run them on sale and I stocked up - think they were about $70 / $75 each.
MSRP tends to run around $109 or so, which ain't cheap!
If you're in no hurry, shop and wait for sales on the AAC parts.
This is the only picture I have so far. The details are over in Rifles (https://www.thehighroad.org/index.php?threads/i-hope-i-didnt-screw-up-too-bad.816764/).
It is an Anderson Arms lower with a (never fired) Hardened Arms upper and CMMG internals. I have since added 10 PMAGS that I picked up for $8.99 each.
I thought the stainless barrel (1/7 twist according to Hardened Arms' website) added a nice touch and the Angled Foregrip is more functional than I thought it would be.
The red dot is pretty nice too, but I guess it's a lower-end model. I will likely add BUIS since I am more of an iron sight guy. The quadrail just begs for more accessories, but I can't think of any that would be practical.
I should have a mini-review up as soon as take it shooting. I only have 247 loaded rounds for it, so I will only be firing a mag or two until I get into a new place. Unfortunately, that's likely to be no sooner than 6 months.
Yes, because using a shorter barrel than whats suggested will lead to accelerated wear. All manufacturer's have a suggested minimum barrel length for different rifle calibers. One thing I found out is just how heavy even the lightest silencers feel when on the rifle. Even a fairly light one like mine at 17 oz still feels like an anchor when mounted up. Be sure to check weight specs. A heavy silencer sucks to use anywhere but a rest.
I had more or less assumed that the silencer at the end of a rifle (or pistol for that matter) would add weight out of proportion to it's actual size/weight. Does the weight factor in at all with the amount of sound a given silencer can dampen? Obviously there are different materials that can be used to make one, but I can't see how a lighter (and to my mind probably smaller also) silencer would typically be quieter, all other things being equal.
I like the tomb mounts since they don't back off, have no extra gagetry to wear or shift, have extremely minimal POA shift, and act as the first sacrificial baffle minimizing can wear.
You might also look at SAS Resistor. It is a good bit quieter, but 2 oz. heavier.
Thunderbeast Arms Co. also makes great cans, though I don't have any of theirs.
Weight has no bearing on how quiet a suppressor is. Some of the loudest cans on the market are also the heaviest. As the tech improves, cans keep getting lighter and quieter.
The shorter the barrel length a can is rated to, the more durable or strong it is. Longer barrel lengths are easier on silencers. A lot of the wear from a short barrel comes from unburned powder causing erosion inside the silencer. Long barrels tend to have little if any unburned powder.
Weight has little to nothing to do with the DB ratings. A silencers volume (amount of space inside, not noise volume) has a huge effect on DB's. Thats why the little short silencers dont silence nearly as well as the full size models. A modern titanium Sig silencer is just as quiet (or quieter) as a heavier AAC unit, it has about the same amount of inside volume.
I have no intentions of talking up one brand over another. Many times people with silencers talk about how theirs is the best one ever, when they only own that one and have not even tried others. I like my Griffin Recce 7 because its what I own and use. Someone else will like their YHM or AAC or Silencerco because its what they own and use. Basically, buy whatevers durable, light, quiet and within your budget. I expanded my budget a bit when I got the Recce 7, but I also knew that after an 8.5 month wait, I didnt want to be disappointed. Here's a pic of it on my favorite 5.56 AR15:
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