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Who packs heat after they've had a few?

Discussion in 'General Gun Discussions' started by Timradcliffe345, Apr 28, 2008.

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Who packs heat after they've had a few?

  1. I do.

    54 vote(s)
    12.7%
  2. Sometimes I do.

    83 vote(s)
    19.5%
  3. I never do that.

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    67.8%
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  1. Timradcliffe345

    Timradcliffe345 member

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    Just like the thread title says. Do you carry after you've had a drink or two?
    Please vote in the poll.

    -God Bless America
     
  2. General Geoff

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    I never drink (not even a single beer), so I guess my answer is "no."
     
  3. Coyote Blue

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    1 beer or wine,max.
     
  4. m38shooter

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    If I know I'm going somewhere that I'll want to drink, I leave it home. If fate takes me somewhere that there's alcohol with no planning, tough luck, I stay dry.
     
  5. theken206

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    define carry?? im not 21 and dont CCW.

    im out here in the serious boonies and we drink and run around with guns quite alot.
     
  6. SaltH2OHokie

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    Nope. I told my girlfriend that my guns are going to make me skinnier because I drink water or sweet tea instead of beer at dinner as of late since I have a pistol on my side.

    I won't lie and say that I've never had a gun and beer in my possession at the same time, but I can safely say I've never been close to intoxicated and had a loaded gun anywhere on me or near me. It just doesn't mix in my mind.

    I also don't like when friends who carry have more than 1 or 2 in an hour's time. I just don't feel all warm and fuzzy like I normally do when in the company of armed friends.
     
  7. Bazooka Joe71

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    Sounds like an appetite for disaster to me...

    I want to die defending myself w/o a firearm only slightly less than I want to go to prison.
     
  8. Timradcliffe345

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    I define carry as being in the posession of a firearm on your person.
     
  9. zxcvbob

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    Who says "packs heat" anymore? :barf:
     
  10. theken206

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    yeah, all the time then.

    i dont care if i cant stand up, the four rules are the four rules and sober or totally hammered, if i cant follow them, i wont be in possesion of a firearm
     
  11. Soybomb

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    Where's biker? He'll say what I want in a much more direct way than I usually do.

    I don't turn into an idiot just because I've had a couple drinks. I don't take any special precautions with my gun any more than I take any special precautions locking up my cutlery because I've had a couple. If you have problems control yourself when you've had a couple drinks you might need a different course of action but as usual simple one size fits all rules don't work.
     
  12. lloydkristmas

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    I dont have a carry permit yet, but it seems like the biggest issue would be if you had to use the gun and had been drinking. Even if you only had one beer or something, how will it look to the jury? You never know how some prosecutor could spin that whole thing.....I dont see any harm in having a couple and carrying, but from a CYA standpoint, it seems like a bad idea.

    Im less worried about the alcohols effect on my judgement as I am the juries outlook on me having alcohol in my system at the time of a shooting, even a justified one.....
     
  13. ReadyontheRight

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    Thomas Jefferson.
    George Washington.
    Benjamin Franklin.
    Sam Adams.
    John Adams.
    Theodore Roosevelt.
    Franklin Roosevelt.

    Probably a few others we all admire.

    I am not condoning drunken weapons handling. I am just pointing out that a few drinks don't necessarily mean criminal behavior as gauged by our current standards.

    It still amazes me that people will argue that a reasonable person should not have the right to grab a gun to defend their own property after having a few drinks.

    The defendent does not choose the time and place of the attack.

    The reasonable conclusion would be that there is NO time for a reasonable, law-abiding person to have a cocktail...because you could be attacked at any moment.
     
  14. theken206

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    agreed soybomb
     
  15. Soybomb

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    Who cares how it would look to a jury? If you're using your gun it should be because you faced great bodily harm or death. Isn't a legal battle preferable to death?
     
  16. Ragnar Danneskjold

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    I hardly ever drink. Meaning maybe 1 or 2 shots every 6 months or so. Nothing else. When I do, I don't carry. Even if I did drink more, I enjoy and prefer carrying to having a headache, upset stomach, slurred speech, bad reaction time, and making a fool of myself.

    And I'm not looking to lose my carry privleges forever because of something stupid like alcohol.
     
  17. VARifleman

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    I don't drink in public, but I have no quarrels with having a gun around when I'm at home and had a drink or so.
     
  18. Kind of Blued

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    I'm waiting on my permit, but I am going to conduct myself the way that the law says I have to, because I find it to be a rather logical/reasonable law. If I am going to be over the legal limit to drive, I won't be carrying. If I can properly operate a car, I can properly operate a gun should I need to. If I can't drive a car down the road without endangering people, I can't fire a round at a criminal without endangering others.

    I've decided, with some intentional extra precaution, where this point lies. Two beers in one meal's time if eating a meal. One beer on an empty stomach, or two on an empty stomach in a meal's time (about 90 minutes).

    When I'm at home however, I carry when I'm drinking. There is no "getting drunk and whipping it out". If a (gunny) friend wants to see my pistol, I will perform the slowest draw in the world, with cartoonishly-exaggerated respect for the four rules, and clear it, otherwise it stays holstered. Period. The only exceptions are if someone breaks in to my house or if I am attacked by a wild animal in my backyard while having a cigarette/cigar. ;) Unlikely, but it could happen, and I think it is a good sign that I already have these things decided prior to my permit going through.
     
  19. LawofThirds

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    I don't drink in public. It's too expensive and I'm usually a designated driver if alcohol is to be consumed. (Any alcohol+driving=stupid imo)

    If I drink at home, I'm not getting drunk, and rest assured I'm not playing around with a loaded firearm.

    While I agree that the four rules apply at all times, I still feel that wise choices go beyond just following rules. Alcohol (or any other intoxicant) limits your ability to make rational choices. Therefore, I make a rational choice before hand to not put dangers where they aren't needed.
     
  20. MTMilitiaman

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    Never.

    One time a while ago, my grandpa and one of his brothers, my great uncle, went through a bottle of Wild Turkey with a 12 pack of Coke. In the process, they got to discussing guns and my uncle pulled out his new Mini-14 Ranch Rifle, only to discover that during storage, the action had, for whatever reason, seized shut and wouldn't budge. He tried yanking it, stomping on it, and all manner of colorful language, but nothing worked. It did draw attention, however, and my brother and I were soon crowded around, trying to ignore the humor in the situation and offer a little sober assistance. I was leaning over the rifle, pointed at the deck, as my uncle fumbled with it, when without warning, he said "Ahhh, [expletive] it," flipped off the safety, and pulled the trigger. Well, 55000 PSI of pressure was enough to unseize the action. But with the left side of my head directly over the compensator, I had an instant headache. My ears rang (for several days, in fact). I was dizzy and disoriented. And slowly, I noticed a .22 caliber hole an inch and a half from my big toe. The message was crystal clear to me--alcohol doesn't belong with guns any more than it belongs with vehicles. So when I drink, I don't operate heavy machinery or power tools, I don't drive, I don't operate firearms--the most dangerous thing I allow myself to pick up is an Xbox controller or a Taco Bell Value Meal.

    Besides, it takes very little alcohol to turn my normally reserved self into a completely different creature, abandoning all inhibition, and with a little more alcohol, looking for a fight. I don't always win (rubs lump on head) :eek:

    I should probably explain that my brother is the wild one, and the alcoholic, so most of the time, I don't drink--I drive and try keep him from getting a mud puddle stomped up his rear end (again, not always successfully). So when I do get a chance to drink, I drink...
     
  21. CannonFodder

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    Nope. Not here.
    Guns and liquor aren't friends... in fact, they make enemies real dang fast.
    If I'm drinking, the tools stay locked up.
     
  22. lvcat2004

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    I'm with most reasonable people here that said "NO" to alcohol and firearm. They just don't go together IMHO and it makes me upset to see/hear people handle firearm while drinking as much as those people who drink and drive.
     
  23. jenrob

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    If I go out to drink my wife comes sense she doesn't drink she carries.

    After 2.5 beers I get a migrain so that limits the beer, but not the Crown and pepsi. Now the last drink I had was 3-4 months ago and it was a beer with a meal and I carried then. I don't do the bar scene any more.
     
  24. Regolith

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    No, but then I don't drink anyway. I think it's kind of a waste of money; I'd rather feed my shooting habit than a drinking habit. ;)
     
  25. theken206

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    i cant tell you good scotch is NOT a waste of money, nor is guiness extra stout
     
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