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Who Prefers the A2 Fixed Stocks?

Discussion in 'Rifle Country' started by amprecon, Jan 4, 2011.

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  1. amprecon

    amprecon Member

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    I bought a RRA LAR-6 a while back and ordered it with the 6-position collapsable stock and thought it looked cool and all and it was functional. I actually set it for the position that fit me the best and leave it there. There is a little wobble to it.

    Then I bought a LAR-8 with the fixed stock and fell in love with it. It seems to be the perfect length and is solid with no wiggle and gives a sense of quality and stability.

    So now I'm looking at replacing the collapsable stock on the LAR-6 for a fixed one.

    So, anyone else out there prefer the fixed stocks on their AR?
    Anyone interested in trading their fixed stock for a collapsable....?
     
  2. DEAHEAT

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    You just didn't buy the right one.......


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    Magpul duhhhh
     
  3. Balrog

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    Yea the Magpuls are much better than other collapsibles.
     
  4. 68wj

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    I like the fixed stocks. Perfect LOP for me, strong, and handy storage. I am a civvy and don't wear body armor or 782 gear anymore so I don't need the adjustability for various tactical situations.

    However, I built my AR so that my wife could comfortably shoot it too and the adjustable stock works well in that regard. I also got a deal on a decent adjustable stock for cheaper than the fixed.
     
  5. Rexster

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    Thus far, I do prefer the A2 stock. I have long monkey arms, with not much meat on my chest, and never favor using a collapsible in any position other than full extension. My AR even has a KAC single-point sling attachment that extends the stock by 1". A collapsible stock does facilitate storage at times, of course.

    My body armor is quite thin, so that is not a factor.

    If one is going to try clearing a malfunction by hitting the stock on the ground, make sure to collapse it first!

    That being said, I am looking into a spare AR, and may go with a collapsible stock.
     
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  6. RockyMtnTactical

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    It just depends, but I do like the fixed stock in some cases. I prefer the A1 length though.
     
  7. Robert

    Robert Moderator Staff Member

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    I have a JP fixed stock on my AR, I could not be happier.
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  8. wnycollector

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    +1 on that. I have two AR, both with A1 stocks.
     
  9. Al Thompson

    Al Thompson Moderator Staff Member

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    Ditto the M16A1 stock.
     
  10. Z-Michigan

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    Fixed stocks are good, but A2 is too long for me. I'm a little guy, only 6' tall and 36" sleeve length. For NBA players A2 is great. Seriously, the extra length of an A2 works well on a target range when not wearing much gear or heavy clothing, but is way too long when moving and shooting or wearing a lot of stuff (coat, backpack straps, etc.) on your shoulder. Like #6, I like the A1 length better, which is available from Cav Arms or in the form of the ACE ARFX stock.

    Mmmmm I love the smell of fanboy in the morning. Magpul makes decent stuff, but VLTOR stocks are nicer in several ways and have a much tighter fit than the MOE, and vs. the other Magpuls when not using the friction lock or when it isn't working right. And I won't even start talking about the SOPMOD.
     
  11. gun addict

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    what's the advantage of the magpul over the standard collapsible stock?
     
  12. alemonkey

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    There is only one answer...get both.
     
  13. Horvath819

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    I prefer collapsible stocks because of the versatility. I just ordered a Magpul MOE stock for my DPMS, I think they look badass.
     
  14. MMcfpd

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    I prefer the A1 to the A2, but for N2CH irons shooting even that's a tad too long. The Ace ARFX is the same length as the A1 and the Ace ARFX-E (Entry) stock, meant for use with body armor, is just too short.

    But the Ace ARFX-E with a DPMS Buttstock Extender is just right for me:
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    Compared to an ARFX:
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  15. RockyMtnTactical

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    Less wobble.
     
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    the bushmasters we have now both have the standard 6 position and they are ok.
    we did have a pair of colts that had the a2 stocks. they were model 6700c match target rifles.

    if there was anything on the colts that i did like more (they were terribly heavy) , it would be the a2 stocks, but then again, with the 6 position stocks i can close them all the way and fit them sideways on the top shelf of the safe, leaving more room for long guns below

    lol @ "smell of fanboy"
     
  17. viking499

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    What is the difference between the A1 and A2 stocks?
     
  18. rtn

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    The A2 is a rock solid platform. I use my A2-configured rifle offhand and with a sling. It is heavy, balanced and perfect for long distance shooting.

    A well made collapsible with a lightweight upper is great for mobility and flexibility.

    Different tools for different tasks.
     
  19. MMcfpd

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    5/8" in length (A1s are shorter).

    The early A1 stocks have a different sling swivel and their buttplate has no trapdoor and is glued on:
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    The A2 stock bodies are made of stronger material.

    There were some A1 length stock bodies made with the A2 material, but they're rare and usually expensive. The A1s are usually plenty strong enough.

    The Cavalry Arms A1 length stocks (C1) are strong material, but with less robust buttplates. The later A1 and A2 buttplates will fit them, and Fulton Armory sells them with A2 buttplates.
     
  20. offthepaper

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    I have both an 20" with A2 stock and a 16 " carbine with an adjustable stock. I much prefer the fixed stock to the adjustable. But the adjustable does look cool. I've thought about putting an A2 on the carbine. Never really tried an A1 stock.
     
  21. taliv

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    you can get a cheek weld with the magpul.
     
  22. Jon Coppenbarger

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    I have several with the a2 but being short the a1 really fits me well.
     
  23. Welding Rod

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    A1 is my favorite fixed, though I like the A2 fine for prone and bench work.

    For telescoping I prefer the Magpul CTR.
     
  24. Tirod

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    Looking at the improvements offered in the last ten years, we've seen them add sling points, storage, stronger designs, cheek welds to improve what little the buffer tube has, multiple locks to quiet them down and get them firm, and lately, a return to the rifle buffer tube. It only loses one click at the short end, and smooths the action making it more reliable. With sling plates and other accessories, a lot of adjustable stocks weren't clicking down anyway.

    Which means we're paying more to get back to what the A1 does anyway. If adjustables were good to begin with, they wouldn't need to keep improving them.

    But what if you NEED a short stock? They are out there, as illustrated. Add the Sully, which is patterned off the older Taiwan issue M16 variant. Good tough stock for armored entry team members who will beat it on doors and perps. An adjustable can't take that punishment - remember, you collapse it all the way to pogo the bolt, or suffer the consequences. It's not tough enough.

    With the constant improvements, cautions, and can't use it's, I don't see an advantage for many shooters. Most do fine with fixed stocks on their other guns, it's really an M4gery fad driving the constant reengineering, and the low costs of start up polymer engineering. We've gone from "get issue or get Choate," to dozens of suppliers, and yet there's only so much you can really do to make it better. After that, it's marketing.

    If you shoot one so well that you can explain where it helps, and show targets that are obvious improvements in accuracy, sure. But then again, you're not the average shooter, either. Too many sit in the closet after a pic is taken with the caveat, "I haven't taken it to the range yet . . . ."
     
  25. sansone

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    the magpul stock has a secondary lock to secure without wobble. Best of both worlds IMO
     
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