Who said the 6.5 Creedmoor was the Bare Minimum for Deer

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  1. loose noose

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    The main reason I started my thread, I had read somewhere he that the 6.5 CM was not a good deer cartridge as it was under powered, even though I had bought mine just previous to reading about it here recently.
     
  2. LocoGringo

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    I hesitate to call someone a "fool", but that "author" is certainly ignorant.
     
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    A friend of mine shoots unlimited does and bambi's with a 223. There is some sort of agricultural rule, that as long as you get the paperwork, have the farmer's permission, and don't collect the dead animal, you can "cull" unlimited crop eating does and bambi's. Bud claims out to 300 yards, a well placed 223 shot is a bang flop.

    Now from what I heard, in those fabled paleolithic hunting grounds in Marlboro country, the deer are armored plated and weigh 1500 lbs to a ton. Ordinary rounds just ricochet off the creatures. However, I never hunted there and never tried to get tags. And, I never tried those mile long shots that the experts so commonly practice in their hunts.

    So anyone who claims a 6.5 bullet going 2500 fps is inadequate on deer, I think that person is one of those types who believes in the old hype we used to read in the vintage press.
     
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  4. loose noose

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    LocoGringo, I agree whole heartedly with ya on that the author ain't all there. After reading it I took my newly purchased Creedmoor out to the range and test fired it and was surprised at the lack of recoil, of course I also had a recoil/flash suppressor attached to the already threaded barrel, as at my age I've been getting a bit recoil sensitive. I was impressed with the accuracy as well. Getting to the point I took my Remington BDL in .270 along just in case.the author was dead wrong. Man, that 6.5CM sure as, I'm sitting here typing, hit that buck and put him right down. I've searched for that thread here with out success, but I'm sure it was here that I read it.

    Incidentally all but one bull elk, I shot quite a while ago, travelled at least 25-50 yards before collapsing, the elk came out to a fire break up in Colorado and took a center of the chest shot right at an estimated 150 yards with the .270 using 150 grain Remington Core Lokt bullets. In fact that is the only elk I ever shot with that rifle, however I can't say I didn't try to get more, but I shot quite a few mule deer, as well as whitetail, and even a few prong horn. I do believe that is my "now go to" rifle for hunting deer, elk, and pronghorn if the occasion ever comes up again. I do think that the old saying "never believe what you read, or hear, unless you see it in person".
     
  5. Tirod

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    I took it as being tongue in cheek. And there is a point to the old saying, "Bring enough gun." I built a 6.8SPC to add 50% more power over 5.56, and while not as fast as a 6.5, looking to complete a .375 SOCOM to more than double that. Having seen 8mm Remington Magnum anchor them in their tracks, there may be a limit to how far we want to go in the horsepower race.

    If there was just one small little thing that stops me from 6.5CM it's the overall cartridge length, being an AR kind of hunting rifle guy. Oh well.
     
  6. Gooseman69

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    My wife shot her bull elk @415 yrds, this year with her 6.5cm & 143 eldx. 1&, done he was drt
    the 6.5 cm shooting. The 143 eldx is plenty of gun for elk out to 550/575 yrds & takeing deer & antelope out to 750 yrds,
    You dont need 1500 ft pounds to kill an elk or /1000 ft pnds for deer, (bows,/short barrreled pistols dont generate anywhere near that. & people use them to kill big game all the time) take out the vitals they die.
     
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  7. Gooseman69

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    The 6.5cm is an awsome round my wife and i have used it on many big game animals, in several states BUT it will never replace the 7/08
    Everyone thought the300 prc would dethrown the
    300wm hasnt happened yet and never will
     
  8. wbm

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    Never ever underestimate the ignorance of 6.5CM haters.
     
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  9. irishlad

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    A little over 600 yards. 6.5 CM 140gr Hornady BTHP

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    I prefer 7mm-08 mostly because I've had good experiences with it, but the difference on deer is probably meaningless. I do think the 7mm-08 has a bit of an edge on something like an elk.
     
  11. H&Hhunter

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    I do not recall anyone on hunting here at THR make a comment about the 6.5 CM being the minimum for deer. Doesn’t mean it didn’t happen but it would certainly be a minority opinion.
     
  12. Random 8

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    Fans of the 6.5x55 Swedish have known that a 120-156 grain bullet at this speed is a low-recoil, flat shooting, game killing machine since 1895. The USA, being fond of the basic 30-06 case size and distrusting things from Europe came up with the same formula at 6.8mm (.270) and a 130-150 grain bullet and a bit more velocity and recoil.

    Great job on your buck, and glad you have found your happy rifle!
     
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  13. tactikel

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    Who said 6.5 CM minimum for Deer? Nobody who ever understood deer hunting. Bare minimums start at:
    .22 hornet, .25-20, .38 spl, .32-20, .410 slugs. Anything over 1000 FPE at impact is acceptable.
    I assume your post was to highlight that the 6.5 CM is a deer killing machine. I agree.
     
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    The 6.5 Creedpuff is about like most other centerfires from 223 on up. Hit 'em in the important parts and they die pretty.
     
  15. Boattale

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    The guy holding this cow's head up killed her with one shot from 6.5 CM at a lasered 849 yards. Yes, they will kill an elk. The long range one was first one down. We killed three more in the same area in less than 20 minutes, all at about 250 yards. The other rifles were a .270 Win shot by me in the back with the camo hat, a 7mm-08 by Bob standing beside me and Chris in front with a .300 Win. Mag. All elk were equally dead.
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  16. jmorris

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    It wasn’t the what .223 for deer guys…they think you are using a bazooka.
     
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  17. Ole Joe Clark

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    The hunter's skill and patience has a lot to do with a rifle's effectiveness, regardless of caliber.

    Have a blessed day,

    Leon
     
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  18. Ugly Sauce

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    Don't take this wrong, but how did you see 600 yards/meters through that thick forest??
     
  19. Ugly Sauce

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    Excuse me, but I think only the game department can proclaim a "minimum". :)
     
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  20. irishlad

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    He shot it from here. It was on the shady hill.
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  21. Ugly Sauce

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    Okay, good. That explains it!! :)
     
  22. Buzznrose

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    The Sweeds have killed a lot of moose with their old 6.5 round over the years.
     
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