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Why 1911 in 9mm?

Discussion in 'Handguns: Autoloaders' started by kokapelli, Sep 24, 2006.

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  1. kokapelli

    kokapelli Member

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    This not a criticism, but why would someone want a 9mm 1911 rather than a pistol that was designed for the 9mm cartridge, like a CZ or High Power?
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  2. Euclidean

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    Because it's a different firing platform with different characteristics, it's the same reason some people might like the Glock over the XD or a Smith and Wesson revolver better than a Ruger revolver even if the guns in question are chambered the same.

    I'm a fan of the CZs, but if you tear one down, it's definitely not a 1911. The trigger pull is probably the most dramatic consequence of the difference of their designs.

    I would imagine that the 1911 design in 9mm vs. the Hipower probably feels, shoots, and handles differently.
     
  3. XavierBreath

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    Because a 1911 functions differently than a CZ or a High Power. The manual of arms is different.

    I carry a 1911 in .45ACP. I own several 1911s, including a 1911 Commander in 9mm. The 9mm Commander allows me to train with a 1911 for half the cost of training with .45ACP. Thus, for the same money, I can train twice as much, or I can take $50 of that money that would go to ammo that particular weekend and take my little girl out roller skating and icecreaming afterwards.
     
  4. kokapelli

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    The difference in ammo cost for practice makes sense.
     
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    Also recoil. The 1911 in 9mm has the lightest recoil of any 9mm handgun that I'm aware of.

    I bought mine because I wanted a 1911 but in a way less expensive caliber. It's also great for the newbies because it doesn't kick and is easy to use.

    I also don't really understand the argument against the 1911 because it wasn't designed for the 9mm. If it's been properly modified to work, isn't the only drawback the added size and weight? And for some, like myself, that's seen as a positive.
     
  6. Billy Sparks

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    I know of one woman that really liked to 1911 platform but due to problems with arthritis[sp] she couldn't handle .45ACP but a Kimber 9mm 1911 fit the bill. For me I want to try out the lower practice price.
     
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    Only one reason >>

    much cheaper to shoot than 45acp...
     
  9. marklbucla

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    This is being discussed on other threads in this forum right now.

    Why?

    • Economical
    • Less shooter fatigue when taking a 1000 rd course (gives us the ability to concentrate on learning, not fighting recoil fatigue)
    • fit an additional 9x23 or 38 Super barrel, and have a great combination of economical practice and high performance carry cartridge
    • the 1911 trigger is better than my Hi-Power. Period
     
  11. HorseSoldier

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    Why would you say the 1911 was no designed for 9mm? JMB did not do the design work, but someone obviously did somewhere along the way. The 9mm 1911 is relatively new (compared to the 45 ACP 1911, anyway -- still older than a Glock and othe modern plastic options), but 38 Super 1911s that don't do much ballistically than 9x19 doesn't do have been around for a very long time.

    As for why buy one, why not? Not everyone feels underarmed with a 9mm pistol, and a single stack pistol tends to be more concealable for daily carry than a double stack, all other things being equal.
     
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    Mine was purchased for range time. 9mm is very iexpensive compared to my .45's. I can practice on the platform I prefer and never miss a beat when I switch to my .45 1911's.
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  13. Wags

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    Combat Commander 1911 9mm

    I like the 1911 in 9mm for the economical choices of ammo, reduced recoil and the price was right when I purchased it. Plus people think it's a 45ACP when they see it............

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  14. kokapelli

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    Don't get me wrong, I like the 1911 pistol, but compaired to a BHP, it is a little large and heavy for 9mm and is not a highcap.

    I do apreciate the superior trigger of a 1911, but am very satisfied with the BHP and CZ triggers.



    Curious to know,
    is it important for people to think it's a 45acp and if it is, why?
     
  15. 10-Ring

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    Just another choice & a diff't revenue stream ;)
     
  16. Wags

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    No, the majority of people associate the 1911 with a 45ACP. When I tell them it's a 9mm I have there undivided attention of curiosity. "Huh" is the main reaction..........
     
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    then there are people out there like me that try to keep all my handguns one caliber to make reloading easier. one handgun caliber and 3-4 rifle caliber are plenty for me. that's why if i buy another handgun it will be the taurus pt1911 and it will be in .40 just like my kahr, and xd, the glock 19 will be sold back to the original owner as soon as i get back home. caliber isn't the only reaon i am getting rid of it, by no means, but this just makes things easier for me, especially in the small quarters in which i live in. i buy a couple 100rds of fmj, and a couple 100 lead rds and that will feed my xd and my kahr. maybe i am wierd but that is the way i do things!:)
     
  18. TC-TX

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    IMO - Simple, really...

    1) The cost of practice with the 9mm is very friendly.

    2) The feel of a 1911 platform is incredible for accuracy.

    3) Have you ever CCWed for extended periods with a BHP? I LOVE my BHP but it is NOT a CCW weapon... It is a duty weapon. The lightweight, compact and micro compact 1911 9mm versions are a TREAT to CCW...

    All things equal, I believe it is a Great Marriage of two great choices in Personal Protection Weapons Platforms.
     
  19. Eightball

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    Pretty easy--it's for the people who think 9mm is superior to .45 to have a 1911 platform to work with :p .

    Really, the practice function and to keep ammo commonality are the easiest reasons that I can think of. Not that I would have a 9mm 1911 instead of a .45, but I would have one in compliment of it, were I to buy one.
     
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    Shooting 9mm in a 1911 is just pure pleasure. Good sights, great trigger, low recoil, very fast recovery.
    I could never get mine to run right though. Too bad, my Springer was one sweet ride.
    I've got a S&W 952 (designed as a 9mm) on lay-away, I think that will make me forget all about my Springer.
     
  21. akanotken

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    one more tiny reason ...

    Let's recap .... :)

    Trigger, recoil, single stack ergonomics, single stack carry, cheap to feed ... what's not to love :)

    I'll add, (I've got another thread about this). It's a good IDPA gun. For the above reasons (minus the carry ergonomics) and the fact that you start with an even number of rounds (sometimes is nice).

    These are the reasons I intend to buy one for my son ...
     
  22. The Real Hawkeye

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    The only reason that I can see is practice is cheap. You might want your practice gun to look, feel and operate exactly like your .45 carry gun.
     
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    It would probably make a pretty decent centerfire gun for NRA Conventional Pistol competition. Certainly it'd be easier to accurize than just about any other 9 mm.
     
  24. Phil DeGraves

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    Because I had a ton of 9mm ammo and holsters and mag pouches for my .45 1911, plus all the reasons already given.
    (I also have a Hi Power).
     
  25. medmo

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    Because it is a 1911 platform shooting 9mm's. I thought the question was self explanatory.
     
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