Tamara
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Stamp collectors probably aren't going to mail that many letters, either.
Why are we arming ourselves?
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Stamp collectors probably aren't going to mail that many letters, either.
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Because a gentleman is always armed.
fastball: ????? Hits The Fan scenario preparers. Sort of like your survivalists but with an emphasis on big government gone bad.
Look up the online fiction thread and regular threads in the strategies and tactics section.
Good shooting
fastball: ????? Hits The Fan scenario preparers. Sort of like your survivalists but with an emphasis on big government gone bad.
Look up the online fiction thread and regular threads in the strategies and tactics section.
Good shooting
That's why I can never seem to bring myself to sell any gun, no matter how infrequently I might actually use it. I own some guns that I doubt I'll ever fire again, but every time I think about selling one, I get that little voice that says 'you never know when you or someone you love might need this gun'. I don't have to dwell on it, or imagine SHTF scenarios, I just quietly put the gun back in the safe, because that's where it belongs.
If you think you are buying too many guns and/or too much ammo, and you have enough of both to survive any imaginable situation, then stop watching the News for a month. You'll calm down after that. The News sells fear, the more scared you are, the more you tune in to find out what's going to happen next, the more ads they sell. It's not that bad things don't happen, but most coverage, especially TV news, is repeatedly hitting you with the worst events and situations they can find -- "if it bleeds, it leads". They don't care about the truth or the quality of your life, they just want to play your fear because that makes them the most money.
(btw, don't flame me, I'm not advocating sticking your head in the sand, only suggesting for those who have developed a desire to hoard guns/ammo that they can't explain and are not comfortable with: (a) taking some time off, and (b) getting your news from sources other than TV)
If you think you are buying too many guns and/or too much ammo, and you have enough of both to survive any imaginable situation, then stop watching the News for a month. You'll calm down after that. The News sells fear, the more scared you are, the more you tune in to find out what's going to happen next, the more ads they sell. It's not that bad things don't happen, but most coverage, especially TV news, is repeatedly hitting you with the worst events and situations they can find -- "if it bleeds, it leads". They don't care about the truth or the quality of your life, they just want to play your fear because that makes them the most money.
(btw, don't flame me, I'm not advocating sticking your head in the sand, only suggesting for those who have developed a desire to hoard guns/ammo that they can't explain and are not comfortable with: (a) taking some time off, and (b) getting your news from sources other than TV)
Because you have the feedom to?
Road,
First, as a free citizen, you can.
On my standpoint and experiences (Los Angeles) and other major cities in California...I have had guns pointed at me on more than a few occasions. I have had persons try their best to do me bodily injury...and some situations have been in the "good part of town." Remember...bad guys have vehicles too.
That's bad enough, both my daughter and my wife have had a nut case jump out of his car and come menacingly with a tire iron in hand towards the car that she was driving. He stopped when she hunkered down behind the steering wheel and had her gun ready (not visible to the BG)
My wife worked in a credit union where there were 7 armed robberies over a 2 month span with the guard getting pistol whipped several times. then sthey fired shots into the air (I think they were practicing on this place.) The times that she could? She accessed her firearm...sometimes she hid out waiting for the BG's to come into her office...ready to defend herself.
I lived in a neighborhood nearby to Watts when they had the Watts Riots. I could hear the gunshots and smell the smoke from the many fires.
I lived in East Los Angeles when they had the East Los Angeles Riots. We could see the CHP zooming by to respond to the many calls.
My daughter was going to a school a few blocks away from Parker Center (Head LAPD office) when the protests began and the store front windows were broken. Then later that day the LA riots began and many places were burned and people beaten or killed.
I can go on, but it gets wearisome.
How about when I drove up to Canada, ey? On the way up in Oregon, some dodo was weaving on the road, went into road rage...tried to move my car with my family off the road.
Went to a 2 year college in a quiet town...never had much crime in that town until some BG whacked a little old lady who never bothered anyone with a hammer....several times. Put her in a coma for 2 months until she died....she was my next door neighbor.
Take your pick, my friend. Any situation where a gun could have (and did) make a difference in the security of myself or my family? Each time, no shots were fired by the good guys, but the presence of a weapon did make some perps change their minds about doing harm to me and mine.
I live in a good neighborhood too. My house price is nearing $800,000.
Live and prosper, sir.
Road,
First, as a free citizen, you can.
On my standpoint and experiences (Los Angeles) and other major cities in California...I have had guns pointed at me on more than a few occasions. I have had persons try their best to do me bodily injury...and some situations have been in the "good part of town." Remember...bad guys have vehicles too.
That's bad enough, both my daughter and my wife have had a nut case jump out of his car and come menacingly with a tire iron in hand towards the car that she was driving. He stopped when she hunkered down behind the steering wheel and had her gun ready (not visible to the BG)
My wife worked in a credit union where there were 7 armed robberies over a 2 month span with the guard getting pistol whipped several times. then sthey fired shots into the air (I think they were practicing on this place.) The times that she could? She accessed her firearm...sometimes she hid out waiting for the BG's to come into her office...ready to defend herself.
I lived in a neighborhood nearby to Watts when they had the Watts Riots. I could hear the gunshots and smell the smoke from the many fires.
I lived in East Los Angeles when they had the East Los Angeles Riots. We could see the CHP zooming by to respond to the many calls.
My daughter was going to a school a few blocks away from Parker Center (Head LAPD office) when the protests began and the store front windows were broken. Then later that day the LA riots began and many places were burned and people beaten or killed.
I can go on, but it gets wearisome.
How about when I drove up to Canada, ey? On the way up in Oregon, some dodo was weaving on the road, went into road rage...tried to move my car with my family off the road.
Went to a 2 year college in a quiet town...never had much crime in that town until some BG whacked a little old lady who never bothered anyone with a hammer....several times. Put her in a coma for 2 months until she died....she was my next door neighbor.
Take your pick, my friend. Any situation where a gun could have (and did) make a difference in the security of myself or my family? Each time, no shots were fired by the good guys, but the presence of a weapon did make some perps change their minds about doing harm to me and mine.
I live in a good neighborhood too. My house price is nearing $800,000.
Live and prosper, sir.
Why??
Not really sure, but it may be similar to when I used to smoke. After a while, I just had to have another, and then another. Also, didn't really need a couple of cartons in hand, but had them.
Could be also that I just like guns, always have. Ammo is really an availability issue for me. I like to shoot a lot when I get the chance to go, and milsurp ammo is the only affordable way to do that for me. Even reloading is 4-5 times as expensive as milsurp ammo. That milsurp has shown that it can dry up. Witness the inavailability of .303 ammo now.
I keep quite a bit on hand so that I will have it in the future.
Not really sure, but it may be similar to when I used to smoke. After a while, I just had to have another, and then another. Also, didn't really need a couple of cartons in hand, but had them.
Could be also that I just like guns, always have. Ammo is really an availability issue for me. I like to shoot a lot when I get the chance to go, and milsurp ammo is the only affordable way to do that for me. Even reloading is 4-5 times as expensive as milsurp ammo. That milsurp has shown that it can dry up. Witness the inavailability of .303 ammo now.
I keep quite a bit on hand so that I will have it in the future.
I think it's a combination of what Dave1006 and Old Dog said.
One, our disposable incomes have risen steadily over the last several years, so we can afford more.
And two, maybe we are subconsciously preparing for things we never thought would happen here. I mean honestly, if someone had told you in '86 there would be an AWB and that it would become law would you have believed it? I think a lot of people didn't and that's how they were able to get by with it.
One, our disposable incomes have risen steadily over the last several years, so we can afford more.
And two, maybe we are subconsciously preparing for things we never thought would happen here. I mean honestly, if someone had told you in '86 there would be an AWB and that it would become law would you have believed it? I think a lot of people didn't and that's how they were able to get by with it.
LASur5r--Your quote "Any situation where a gun could have (and did) make a difference in the security of myself or my family" made me think. Years ago,my niece (about age 10) was watching a made for TV movie about an unarmed family being terrorized by a group of thugs at night on a secluded beach. According to her mother, my sister-in-law, she turned to her friends and said "That would never happen to my Uncle Tommy. " We had NEVER camped or even had a picnic without the presence of my 1911 being on my person. I am a much different person now. I carry a Smith&Wesson. ----Tom
----TomGreat answers all, I basically feel that I don't want my last resource of defense being having to depend on someone else. If I have a problem first of all I'll try avoidance. If that doesn't work I'll call law enforcement for help. If that doesn't work then I'll take care of it myself at whatever level of violence is required to remedy the situation. I want to be sure that I have the the clear potential of being the threat of danger to whoever is the problem instead of them being the threat to me. "The police didn't get here quick enough" doesn't work for me.
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Black Snowman
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Why ask why? Just shoot 'em dry!
Appolgies to the marketting guys who made the Bud Dry commericals
Firearms have replaced all my other hobbies. I feel it's more worthy than my old hobbies like musical instruments I didn't play, RC cars I didn't use, cars that are expensive to repair, computer games that just wasted my time, etc . . .
The involvement in firearms, reloading, and politics is much more gripping than the other hobbies I've tried. So, the money that used to go into many hobbies I sometimes enjoyed a little all goes to my support of firearms.
Appolgies to the marketting guys who made the Bud Dry commericals
Firearms have replaced all my other hobbies. I feel it's more worthy than my old hobbies like musical instruments I didn't play, RC cars I didn't use, cars that are expensive to repair, computer games that just wasted my time, etc . . .
The involvement in firearms, reloading, and politics is much more gripping than the other hobbies I've tried. So, the money that used to go into many hobbies I sometimes enjoyed a little all goes to my support of firearms.
beardking
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Why? Why you ask?? Why?
Because I can. And because the only people that can stop me are my wife (not often) and my banker (quite often). I only have a small collection compared to most of the people on this board, but I do plan on enlarging that collection often. I've seen people ask the question "I have this gun, and this gun and this gun, what gun do I NEED now?" My answer, all of them. Except the ones that I want, leave those for me.
Because I can. And because the only people that can stop me are my wife (not often) and my banker (quite often). I only have a small collection compared to most of the people on this board, but I do plan on enlarging that collection often. I've seen people ask the question "I have this gun, and this gun and this gun, what gun do I NEED now?" My answer, all of them. Except the ones that I want, leave those for me.
Tamara
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BigG,
I'm aiming to be able to equip a company.
I want to start my own platoon someday.
I'm aiming to be able to equip a company.
Gordon Fink
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Whenever I start thinking that I have too many guns, I just remember my unborn children and grandchildren. Since firearms will probably be functionally illegal in two or three more generations, the weapons I acquire now may be all that my descendants have available when the time of need comes.
So, you know, it’s for the children.
~G. Fink
So, you know, it’s for the children.
~G. Fink
one-shot-one
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for me Tamara hit the nail,
some people collect stamps, some coins, others baseball cards.
i perfer guns & ammo, and i'm not talking about reading matterial.
some people collect stamps, some coins, others baseball cards.
i perfer guns & ammo, and i'm not talking about reading matterial.
Dave Markowitz
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Because guns are like Pringles: "Betcha can't buy just one!"
cratz2
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I'm pretty far from the 'most armed' I've ever been... There was a time when I probably owned 30 handguns and probably 15 rifles. I just like the mechanical aspects of how guns work. I like how different guns work. I respect the feeling of a well-broken in 1911 and I had to buy it. I love the way CZs feel in the hand and I had to buy it. I love a very decent quality 22 bolt rifle and I had to buy it. If money isn't a big problem, the more the merrier.
As to whether we are actually 'more armed', I figure one individual that lives on his or her own probably needs one carry gun, a reasonable replacement, a semi-auto 'higher powered' rifle (223, 7.62x39 or similar) and a 12 gauge shotgun. A 22 rifle and handgun are nice as is a 308/30-06/270 type longer range bolt rifle. Beyond that, I think the prudent path would be to have more mags for the primary and secondary carry guns and the AR/AK and oodles of ammo. And know how to shoot them all very effectively. I honestly believe the person that only owns three guns and competes in three gun matches is much better armed than the person that has two safes full of guns and rarely shoots more than one or two of them.
As to whether we are actually 'more armed', I figure one individual that lives on his or her own probably needs one carry gun, a reasonable replacement, a semi-auto 'higher powered' rifle (223, 7.62x39 or similar) and a 12 gauge shotgun. A 22 rifle and handgun are nice as is a 308/30-06/270 type longer range bolt rifle. Beyond that, I think the prudent path would be to have more mags for the primary and secondary carry guns and the AR/AK and oodles of ammo. And know how to shoot them all very effectively. I honestly believe the person that only owns three guns and competes in three gun matches is much better armed than the person that has two safes full of guns and rarely shoots more than one or two of them.
spartacus2002
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Because I read history. Better to have and not need, than need and not have.
Edward429451
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Because carbon steel might be worth more than gold in the future?
ReadyontheRight
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GOLD is for the mistress. Silver for the maid.
Copper for the craftsman cunning at his trade!
" Good! " said the Baron, sitting in his hall,
"But Iron - Cold Iron - is master of them all."
–Kipling-
Copper for the craftsman cunning at his trade!
" Good! " said the Baron, sitting in his hall,
"But Iron - Cold Iron - is master of them all."
–Kipling-
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