Discussion in 'Handguns: General Discussion' started by Plan2Live, Mar 6, 2022.
Possibly someone who would post 'If you are carrying openly, you can't ignore a "No Firearms" sign.'
If a store or venue wishes to post such a sing then I will honor their request whether the signage is legally binding or not.
It's called common courtesy.
To each their own. No law against it, I carry still. Concealed is concealed they don't know I am carrying. In the situation that I reveled that I was carrying aka their and their customers lives are on the line, I guarantee they will be glad I ignored their sign. Been doing this for well over a decade now with no issue.
Practically, TN HCP is open carry legal, but concealed carry recommended to avoid flutters from the gun sensitive.
Your pop psychology is misplaced, because I said nothing about what I do and did not imply one way or the other. Another poster did actually admit not feeling restricted by signs.
So I assume each state's open carry may be different. Do any require a permit for open carry? Do all open carry states require the gun be unloaded and stored in the trunk when you get in your car? Michigan considers it concealed carry if an open carry person gets in their car with the loaded gun still on their hip. Makes it kind of difficult to actually open carry.
In SC open carry is limited to those with a CCW permit. North Carolina has been an open carry state as long as I remember. I’ve only seen a handful of people do it for the 22 years I lived there. It was maybe 2 or 3 times.
Exactly, which is why one does not want a huge black gun while wearing light color clothes. Want to be as inconspicuous as possible. Nonetheless, the perps will know and try to get the gun, so yeah, generally a bad idea.
Open Carry is not "brandishing" a firearm.
I know what you mean, but in the legal world of firearms, "brandishing" has a very specific meaning, and it isn't a positive one.
Well, maybe in some states.
Though we are an open carry state, in NC we have a law called "Going Armed to the Terror of the People." Included:
My DA friend explained that brandishing was the spirit of the law, but unfortunately discretion is in the hands of the LEO. Did the fact you open carried in Walmart terrorize other shoppers? He said it was a loose law with lots of latitude. "Conceal it," was his advice.
An offshoot of open carry is the trail of "Firearms Prohibited" signs in its wake. I was at a popular beach access facility several years ago when a kid brought his girlfriend to the gazebo.. a Glock proudly displayed on his hip. He got plenty of stares. Yep... a month later the facility was posted.
Folks, I get it. Tons of people didn't grow up with dad's that took them shooting and most of their exposure to guns are colored by TV's negative display of who has a gun and how they use it. Open carry doesn't ring the same with such folks... it's just a nut showing his "stuff."
I don't want to perpetuate that perspective and I look for opportunities to introduce the benefits of guns for self defense. I'm grateful for laws beneficial to open carry so I don't get nailed when my shirt rides up, but I'd rather wait for an opportunity over lunch to say, "Yeah I'm carrying a gun, let me tell you all bout it."
Or nonexistent, as in Florida, where it’s illegal.
I've seen more open carry when I went to gun shows, but it's still quite rare there. Maybe one or two walking around with a pistol on their belt.
The times it does increase in frequency, are when the world gets flipped. After hurricanes etc, when most lights are on because of generators. And it's still people just going about their business.
edit to add- someone mentioned seeing employees at gun shops doing that. I didn't include that. I do see that almost every time I go into a gun shop, pawn shop, range etc. It doesn't even register to me. It's not like the guy working at Home Depot in the lumbar aisle has a 1911 on his hip.
In my opinion, this scenario could have been and should have been addressed by inserting language into the existing CWP laws that covers "momentary and unintentional exposure". I'm always suspicious when a small but well funded group employs a PR campaign that convinces lawmakers to pass legislation no one outside a small group is really pushing for.
I don't understand you. What is this "small but well funded group employing a PR campaign?"
I suggest they are no different from people who defend the Right to Free Speech, or the Right to a Jury Trial.
Then you have to insert into the law what constitutes momentary and unintentional exposure. How do you separate unintentional from downright improper/negligent exposure? How many times do you get to momentarily disclose because of a bad choice of cover garment and gun position? Do you want to do court time arguing your opinion on momentary and unintentional with that of the cop's/prosecutor's view of what it means?
It really is best just to have open carry laws.
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