Discussion in 'General Gun Discussions' started by Terry G, Nov 15, 2021.
I still don't care for them at $500 to $600 they are going for now.
I purposely never got a C&R license because it would've been too easy to spend lots and lots of $!!!
In other cases, I didn't / don't want to bring on a new caliber. I'm happy with the calibers I have. $150 cheap surplus 32 acp pistols just don't blow my skit up anymore. While the gun may be cheap - go shop for the ammo.
Me being a shooter with little income during the 1990s, my problem with milsurps was the fact that most cheap milsurps were worn out or nearly worn out, and finding affordable foreign chambered ammo pre-online-store days was difficult for me. Not counting USSR/Russia surplus ammo, of course.
Fer example, I bought a 1896 Swedish Mauser for $80 in 1995. But ammo found locally for that gun was up to $40.00/box of 20 back then. It was like going to the local big box store to buy a low priced printer ($) for the house and then buying toner ($$) after the trial sized toner ran empty.
I’m one of those guys that bought a crate of Mosins , just for the hell of it.
I also bought lots of ammo.
did buy. I'm mostly a pistol shooter, so the Moisin-Nagants never interested me much. Picked up a K-31, but at the tail end of availability when prices were already rising. Bought a Garand a year for several years. But Makarovs? Cz-82s? Tokarevs? Yup! My big regret is that I didn't get a C&R sooner...and snapped up stuff like Lahti pistols.
In my 77 years, many surplus were beat up junk. Throats shot out, bluing that was spray painted on. Mismatched bolts to gun, excessive head space. Jam a matic 30 carbines. Photos of rifles were shown stacked like cord wood. For an extra $20, the distributor would hand pick a nice one for me. NOT.
The surplus 1911s were a bargain @ $ 45. Had 3 different ones. Accuracy not great, heavy triggers, poor sights. Sold to buy Colt GC @ $ 276 new. . Today, people are crazy paying the CMP price for mismatched guns.
Before 1968 a bargin basement had a rack full of 1903 Springfields. Nice to hand pick one that looked good. Ended up needing a new surplus barrel installed. New barrel $25. Cost to have gunsmith headspace the short chambered barrel, $5. The good old days.
Had an FFL & some extra $$ at the time.
It's pretty typical to harken back to "the good old days" that look better from a distant vantage point. The runup in price is because we all want what we don't have, and when production or shipping ceases we want it even more. Now we are getting horror stories about not enough stuff for Christmas, and it's rather sad to see that we never seem to catch on until late in the game.
Edit ** to answer the OP question, yes I did buy a bunch of surplus guns over the years along with a fair amount of surplus ammunition. The difference though is I was only buying 1 or 2 copies of a given gun and then shooting it until the ammo dried up. So collectors value really did not and still does not matter to me. I just wanted something fun and robust/reliable with cheap to shoot which happened to be surplus. Rifles which go bang for 10-15 cents and handguns for 6 cents are wonderful.
These two quotes right here sum it up perfectly. For me, it was when CMP (actually, it was DCM back then) had M1 Carbines. I thought there would always be carbines for sale, so I didn't take the opportunity.I probably could have pulled it off with careful and disciplined budget planning. Now, I could write a check for one, but I can't justify the price tag.
Only three K98ks remained in the family and I don't miss the rest.
Not yet! Pretty straightforward process---fill out forms, copy forms to send to local CLEO (in case they need to contact ATF about you, for their files, c.), send check and form to ATF.
The best kind, Unissued. Seen a Lee-Enfield Rifle 303, looked like new. Shot small groups at 100 yards.
But not seeing that many of them yet.
Savage 99's. Winchester 94's. And Colt SAA's.
To this date there are milsurps that are about what they were then… a Krag was a thousand bucks in 2006, it’s about a thousand bucks now. On the other hand, the Mosin that was $69 is now $350, and the SKS that was $250 is now $600… most people would say the Krag is a better gun/better buy/better collectible, but from a financial perspective the Mosin crate would have been a better investment. And who could have predicted that suddenly a cheap Commie gun with millions imported, would be selling for more than a pretty good Savage or Ruger deer rifle?
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