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Why do people buy guns?

Discussion in 'Handguns: Autoloaders' started by boostedxt, Oct 13, 2009.

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  1. boostedxt

    boostedxt Member

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    So I just had a conversation with a buddy of mine who bought a gun 3 years ago. I have been trying to convince him to sell it to me..:D..but he wont and his reason was because he needs it if someone breaks in. Now the title is a bit misleading but why do people buy guns and then just let them sit there? In 3 years he has...

    - He has put about 50 rounds through it.
    - Has never purchased ammo for it. He has it loaded with a box of Winchester white box I gave him to go target shooting with for his birthday.
    - Has never cleaned it
    - Has never taken it apart to lube it
    - Hasn't even taken it out of his draw

    He has no clue as to how it works or how to fix it should it break. My theory is that if you have a gun for home defense you need to be excellent at many things......even in the dark. Shooting with each hand, loading, fixing jams, moving while shooting, kneeling, laying prone, everything. If you arent at least good at those its probably more dangerous to have a gun than it is to not have one.

    People like this remind me of the line in Zorro where Shaun Connery asks if he even knows how to use the sword and he replies.."Pointy end goes into the other guy."

    Thoughts?
    Joe
     
  2. Jim K

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    Some people buy guns because they seriously need them for protection. Those folks generally do know how to use their guns since there is a very real and known threat.

    Others buy them the way they might buy a fire extinguisher, just in case of some vague need sometime in the future. Since a threat is not considered seriously, the gun owner will not think seriously about the gun as a means of defense. Your friend is that kind.

    Others buy them because they like guns. Why the fascination? There have been some studies by psychiatrists, but most have been so tainted by the political agenda of the people doing or commissioning the studies that they are worthless. (Of what value is a study of gun ownership by the Brady campaign, for example? "All gun owners are insane, fascist fanatic killers ....")

    The liking of guns seems to me to have no more rationale than the liking of cars, or postage stamps, or coins or any other object men (and owners and collectors are mostly men) find collectible and fascinating. Some women do collect, but rarely with the avidity that men do, though women often buy and collect quilts, china, and art objects. Hummel collectors are mainly women, not men. For collectors, the "deadly weapon" aspect of firearms is of little concern, though many do shoot and practice. Mostly, though, gun collectors no more consider their guns as weapons than coin collectors consider their collections as pocket change.

    Jim
     
  3. boostedxt

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    the biggest thing, and you hit on it in your 2nd paragraph. why buy a gun for home defense and then do nothing with it?

    I have a escape plan for my fiance in case of intruder, fire, tornado...crap like that! This is the same guy who has a motorcycle and every 3 months goes to a lot and practices emergency procedures and evasive moves to improve his riding skills.

    joe
     
  4. BigMustard

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    Peace of mind?
     
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    My Dad is like that, but at least he will shoot them with me, but it's more out of just spending time rather than out of proficiency. I also notice this habit translates to non firearms that he feels he has a need for, yet never actually incorporated into his life.
     
  6. zhyla

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    Your friend may be incompetent with his weapon but he's still infinitely better off than having no gun at all. Why don't you nag him to go to the range instead of trying to weasel him out of the only weapon he owns?
     
  7. boostedxt

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    tried that many times...he has no desire too. I figure if he has no desire to shoot ever and doesnt ever do anything with it he might as well have $500 more dollars...;)

    joe
     
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    I like reloading. I need to have something to shoot the ammo or I'll end up with a basement full of cartridges.
     
  9. chevyforlife21

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    well it sounds like your friends gun isnt even gunna work if he does need it if there is a home invasion, if its never been oiled and its an auto....
     
  10. boostedxt

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    Thats what gets me....I told him if he does nothing to the gun odds are it might work for 1 round...then it will jam. Now what?

    I have tried to get him to go to the range with me...nothing. I even bought him ammo...lol...nothing!

    joe
     
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    For some reason I have guns I rarely shoot ...but I do not see them as a waste of resources nor am I motivated to get rid of them.
     
  12. Ed Ames

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    How is your question any different than, "Why would someone keep $500 in the bank (or in cash) if they aren't going to spend it today? They aren't enjoying it and if they need to spend it they won't be as knowledgeable about spending money, won't know how to haggle or what stores have the best deals. They should spend it now or buy something from me so I can spend it."

    Some people gain a sense of security from having resources in reserve. Money in the bank, full tank of fuel, a gun in the drawer... if they didn't have those things they'd need to get them.
     
  13. EOD Guy in VA

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    There are as many answers to this question as there are types of guns and types of people. I collect for three reasons... history, technology, and personal protection.
     
  14. highorder

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    Wrong.

    Again and again people with no experience come out on top because they were armed. Thats enough for 95% of the people out there.
     
  15. Mad Magyar

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    There was a poll conducted IIRC, Guns & Ammo about two years ago. Actually, you described a healthy percentage of people that own firearms. Many of these owners just want something in the house or near the night-stand. They figure if they could just point in the right direction & pull the trigger; that's good enough.
    I won't knock them, like it was said by one of the posters; better to have something then nothing at all.
     
  16. Shadow 7D

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    I like the fire extinguisher theory better, how many people have actually used a fire extinguisher, are familiar with the process of aiming them, good thing they have pictures (and written instruction believe it or not) on them.

    Best yet, do you know what the expiration date of your extinguishers is? Most come with a service tag with an expiration date. When was the last time you checked the little dial to make sure it was in the green.

    These are the things that you do every time you practice and clean your pistol, ensuring that it functions and will continue to function.

    well my paranoia is flaring up, off to see where the little guy has hid the fire extinguisher this week, and yes you have to pull hard to get the pin out, I switched it out with an old cotter pin on a keyring about the time my son started taking it off the hook.
     
  17. frankiestoys

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    As some have already said ,there maybe several reasons why people buy guns.
    I have to believe that many of the guys that write on these thread's look at gun collecting as a part of who they are, maybe on how they were raised or what they have become like Hunters,soldiers,cops, hobbyist.
    But i have to agree a gun can be useless or even dangerous to some one who has little or no training with one.
    You, that means all of us .have to get out and shoot, practice and know all the do's and dont's of owning a firearm.
     
  18. Ed Ames

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    I once got a "you are crazy" tirade from a friend over a fire extinguisher. I needed/wanted a small fire extinguisher for a specific application so I went to the store and bought two. They weren't especially cheap. I then went home, set a small fire, and emptied one of the two putting it out.

    The reaction wasn't because I set a fire... it was in an old grill and was perfectly contained. The reaction was to my "throwing away" the price of a fire extinguisher. My answer that I had never used that type of extinguisher and wanted to see if (and how) it worked was answered with, "I've never used any fire extinguisher, doesn't mean I'm going to throw away the price of one for no reason."

    He had no problem with the idea of buying a fire extinguisher... he had at least one... but he saw no reason to use one until there was an active emergency.
     
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    For years I owned a handgun, couple of shotguns, and a muzzle loading rifle. I haven't hunted deer in a coon's age. Haven't shot rabbits, squirrels or birds either. Didn't carry my weapon, didn't practice, didn't think about it. :uhoh: About 12 years ago, I was doing a building inspection in broad daylight. Walked down an alley, 10 am in the morning, and much to my surprise, I, wait me, yup... became the victim of a crime.
    NEVER AGAIN! :mad:
    Now, I carry a pistol. Took 12 years to get to this point. A couple of other things happened recently to move me toward that end. Now, I practice, have a flashlight handy, check things out that go bump in the night. Yep, I'm slow, but I am accurate. I sleep a lot lighter these days. Some of my friends have said I'm paranoid. Easy for them to say.
    Give your friend time. Things may change. He may come to you one day for help in learning how to shoot that gun properly. Just hope he does have to go through what I've been through.
     
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    Oddly enough I had a conversation with an old friend tonight and
    he mentioned buying a .38 spl revolver about thirty years ago.Said he and his wife might have shot 18 rds. thru it when they bought it.I asked him if he had cleaned and oiled it since and he said no.I told him the oil had probably turned into varnish and he should clean it up.He agreed.tom.:confused:
     
  21. TheBandit

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    I have an uncle who owns 200+ guns. There is no way 99% of them ever get used...he owns them because he likes them I guess.

    PS-Hi Joe...never seen you over here
     
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    I think these days, guns are amazingly inexpensive for the amount of engineering many of them embody. That, and the historical contribution to the advancement of the ability of mankind to provide for his family and defend his territory would be good enough. Beyond that... expressions of art. If you actually use, practice with, and care for them, so much the better. Everyone should be allowed to decide for themself "why" though.

    Les
     
  23. boostedxt

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    Thebandit: who are you!!!?? lol oh and yeah but I bet the one he has in his night stand or the one he has on his hip he is pretty good at using it.

    joe
     
  24. Lowlander91

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    I bought a springfield gi for carry use but since i havent had time to test fire it stays in the case. i only use guns i know can run smoothly and what ammo is best for them. that is why my carry gun is my dan wesson 357 and my HD gun is my Mossberg 590 . once i get to know my springfield ill carry it but until then it ill have to wait. dang i really want to shoot that thing.


    I think people buy guns and never shoot them or care for them is becasue they dont know someone who can help them or they just bought it thinking everything will work when it needs to.
     
  25. lions

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    Well, not all gun owners are THR members. I would wager that most folks here take shooting a little more serious than the majority of the gun owning community. If he doesn't want to shoot it, too bad for him. At least he has one which puts him farther ahead than if he didn't.

    Oh, also, if you are really concerned that it won't work if he ever does need it because he has neglected to do any maintenance in 3 years, then I would suggest helping him out and clean & oil it for him. You know, because you're a friend... and you care.
     
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