Discussion in 'Handguns: Revolvers' started by Homerboy, Sep 26, 2016.
I bought my SP101 in 22LR from a gentleman at a local gun show for $400 (it had been barely fired). Is the DA trigger heavy, a little bit, but my goodness, people act like you need a tow chain and a dually pickup to pull it.
I really like shooting my SP101 in 22LR, it gets good groups at 7 yards (for me) and looks good to boot. I ordered a Hogue grip as the stock one is a touch small.
I also have a Taurus Model 94 in 22LR and it is a good revolver as well.
tow chain and a dually- too funny, thanks for the laugh!
Same results for me out to 7yds.
I don't find the trigger particularly heavy, just a bit longer than my other revolvers.
Yes, it sure looks good- love the look of SS
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And so it goes...
The gun is fairly large for a kit gun, but I still find it handier than the average K-frame. I happen to kind of like the FO front sight, the grips and the half-underlug which looks a lot better to me than the full lug on most of it's SP/GP cousins.
You'll need a good extra hundred to $150 more to touch a Smith model 63, and even more for a K-frame. I think if you get a decent specimen this particular model is not bad.
This is a decent gun- not necessarily a great choice as ones first or only .22 by any means but it could work if you are not to weak. I like my full size .22 fir target or accuracly but this is a good gun.
So I sold both. I will not even be tempted to try the SP101 in .22lr as I have so many other .22lr pistols and revolvers.
I suspect the SP or even the GP would become dust collectors. Triggers and weight do matter. I also suspect the average Buckmark or Ruger MK II will out shoot the SP and the GP .22 models with a much better trigger, better balance, the need for less cleaning work, and a lower purchase price.
I just think the trigger issue in these is overblown. I have zero problems working the trigger. And I am super accurate with my Ruger service six. No less
Accurate than any of my S&W's.
In the photo below you'll see my Ruger Security-Six frame with an inset of the GP-100 grip.
The grip weight is reduced, but the extra steel in the barrel throws the balance off. That's one reason I've never cozied up to the GP-100. That said, the GP is still an excellent pistol. I just can't warm up to the .22LR SP-101. Like a good knife, a revolver has to have a good balance and feel in the hand. The current Rugers, to me, just don't have that great balance. Picking up a Security-Six, a S&W 686 or 66 and then a GP-100, the GP-100 seems off balance to me. And the .22LR SP-101 is, in my view, worse.
That's just it. Rugers are making mostly range guns now. If you're hiking, camping or fishing, you have to find earlier guns or guns by other makers. While shooting, I like a heavier barrel to steady my aim, especially when firing multiple shots. But I don't like carrying them and, like I said, I think the balance is terrible because of what Ruger did to the grips.
The S&W 686 and .22LR revolvers are balanced fine.
One .22 & one .357, both fit the same leather, both are near perfect fits in my hand with the Hogue grip on 'em.
Balance is great, for me.
Neither is a range gun.
In fact, I don't own a range gun.
She chose it over the S&W 617 because of the size. I already had to send it back to Ruger because it wouldn't fire DA. I asked them to do something about the hammer pull difficulty. And, it's definitely better but still not great.
Would a complete spring replacement job using Wolff Gunsprings help?
Did you let your wife actually dryfire it before you bought it?
It's not a very good "wife" gun for many, if not most.
The mainspring has to be strong for rimfire reliability in the model.
Sell The Ruger
Cry once only.
Live happy ever after.
I have a GP100 that has a very sloppy trigger. The pull feels lighter than the sp101 but is too long and the trigger has a great deal of side to side play. If you had the chance to cherry pick a Ruger before buying one would be worth the time to find one with tighter tolerances and work with it from there.
The DA pull on mine started out somewhere around 16lbs. After some basic work (polishing, shimming) and a good bit of dryfiring and shooting, it's a smooth 13lbs. Still not a light trigger by any means, but very shootable (at least for me) and a lot of fun at the range.
The last time I had it out, I was shooting it at a steel torso silhouette at about 50 yards. I got to where I could empty the gun DA in about 5 seconds and still keep all 8 hits on the steel most attempts.
As a side benefit it is that it is very good trigger finger exercise--and is a lot more fun than using a hand exerciser.
I replaced the factory grips with a grip from Hogue. I really liked the look of the factory grip but they were just too small for me.
The SP101, is not an inexpensive pistol, so they lose to those in the market who will buy the Taurus, Heritage Rough Rider, old H&R, etc.
They lack the overall refinement of a S&W, in trigger, radiusing of sharp edges (especially on the trigger), weight, what can be done with the trigger by a good gunsmith, etc. I find the revolver crowd at my club will put in even more money for a pre-lock, pre-MIM, S&W over the SP101 any day. So, that market is lost.
They lose to the 22 Auto shooters, who will not consider a revolver.
I think all of these factors add up to the tepid response in the market.
Just my opinion, so no flames from the Ruger fan boys, please...
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