I am not a big fan of the G21 grip either. Too big, and too square and blocky. I got rid of mine but still have a G20 which is the same size.
Why does the HK USP Mk 23 cost so much more than other USP variants?
- Thread starter Balrog
- Start date
RevolvingGarbage
Member
Having handled a couple Mk.23s, I get the impression that the designer took the .45ACP, pretended it was a 35kpsi cartridge like 9x19 and went from there. The ability to sustain a diet of 230gr@1000FPS loads is is not without merits.
tommy.duncan
Member
I would love a 10mm H&K!!
In the Mark 23 frame would be incredible!!
TheHermit
Member
- Joined
- Feb 5, 2021
- Messages
- 40
Actually, HK MK23 and USP were the first pistols equipped with a rail - HK's rail just didn't become the industry standard.
Some people have converted USP40s to 10mm Auto. Conversion requires a slightly modified 2011 magazine, 10mm barrel (re-chambered .40 S&W works well) and a cut on the ejection port if you want to be able to eject a live round.
Here's a video on one of these conversions: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wzh16zi55G0
Gordon
Member
Mine is in an electronic wall safe near my bed. I just can't bring myself to sell it. It comes set up for 45 supers. It suppresses superbly. I think breech stays locked longer than my g21 and it's mass guaranteed great extraction and ejection. I modified the the rail to take a light / Lazer and I have a real issue kydex holster for it. I only have four mags for it.
FL-NC
Member
That weird HK rail was the only one I saw in the mil during the time when it was issued in SOCOM. I think the last time I saw any was around '07.
Mark_Mark
Contributing Member
- Joined
- Jan 9, 2021
- Messages
- 20,210
FIVETWOSEVEN
Member
- Joined
- Aug 28, 2009
- Messages
- 5,147
The way to look at the Mark 23 is that it is basically a USP prototype and it's way more overbuilt than it really needs to be. That overbuilding does come with an increased cost. I bought mine because of low the recoil is compared to any other .45 I've shot. That massive slide gives it less recoil than some 9mms I've shot which made the extra cost worth it to me.
MarshallDodge
Member
Yeah, probably because they get questions like why is one model more expensive than anotherProbably because it was used by Bruce Willis's SEAL's in the movie "Tears of the Sun", and by the real SEAL's, IRL, and, just because HK still hates you as a lowly civilian.
I would think part of it is economy of scale. They don't sell a lot of the Mark 23.
GoldieMI
Member
I liked mine, didn't love it though. I have big enough paws to comfortably shoot it. I traded it away for far more than I paid for it during 2020. it was accurate enough, but compared to a 1911, I was faster, more accurate, and happier with the 1911.
The trade offers were heavily in my favor lol.
The trade offers were heavily in my favor lol.
Dragonfly
Member
As others have mentioned upthread, the Mk23 is significantly more robust than the USP (which is no slouch itself). I’ve got a few detailed pictures of mine in this thread from a few years ago.