Why Don't You Just Paint "I have guns inside" on the side of it?

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  1. Speedo66

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    A trio of people were arrested in NJ as they attempted to cross the Holland Tunnel into NYC. The van they were in, according to this article, had multiple gun related and 2nd amendment stickers on it, and advertising for a range one of them owned.

    The police ostensibly stopped them for a cracked windshield, but I'll take a wild guess and suppose some of the material on the side of the van may have caught their attention. Several guns, 5 pistols, an AR, and a shotgun, were found inside, and they were arrested on firearms charges.

    Here's a quote from the article: "Its vehicle, a black Dodge truck with red paint and neon green trim, was plastered with decals celebrating gun culture, including a large image of cross hairs, an allusion to the Second Amendment, and an advertisement for Higher Ground Tactical, the shooting range Mr. Cramsey operates in Emmaus, Pa."

    Also found inside was a minute amount of drugs, which they piled on to the gun charges. Be interesting to see if the guns were being carried according to Federal rules for transporting weapons through states on an unbroken trip. They were allegedly passing through on their way to Brooklyn to save a girl from a drug situation. Could they not have come up with a less conspicuous vehicle? LOL

    Here's the article: http://www.nytimes.com/2016/06/23/nyregion/3-arrested-at-holland-tunnel-with-weapons-cache.html?rref=collection%2Fsectioncollection%2Fnyregion&action=click&contentCollection=nyregion&region=rank&module=package&version=highlights&contentPlacement=8&pgtype=sectionfront&_r=0
     
  2. bannockburn

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    Apparently they do not understand the true meaning of the word "inconspicuous".
     
  3. CLP

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    Stupid is as stupid does.

    Sooo, seeing how they were also charged with drug possession, I'm guessing she was out of drugs and they were on the way to "help" her out?

    Incidentally, that SUV looks like it'd totally rock the Baja 1000.
     
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    I saw this story yesterday. Several things didn't make sense and the story continued to evolve and change all day as did the pictures of the evidence and even cropping the photo itself.

    Something strange with this one.
     
  5. Swing

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    I'm sure this blended right in ....

    ClkxI5sWEAIqUyu.jpg

    LOL! :rolleyes:
     
  6. OldMac

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    It literally had cross hairs on the driver side door. There isn't enough pot and floride in Pennsylvania to make you that clueless. The neon traveling billboard along with the obligatory social media post might as well have been a glazed donut trying to sneek past Chris Christies staff meeting. His minions probably cracked the window while fighting over who gets the credit for this haul. There are no good guys in this story.
     
  7. HOOfan_1

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    I see no cracked windshield...
     
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    Its not obvious from this still photo so it seems unlikely that it could be seen from a squad car on a moving highway. the blue lights on top are a nice touch.
     
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    I'm sure they were making a delivery from their FFL location in PA to one somewhere in the area they were caught. Why else would they be there, with that cargo? They can't be that stupid, can they?
     
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    Unless we can prove a conspiracy theory, it appears that they were that uninformed and stupid. :scrutiny:
     
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  11. Rembrandt

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    Proof that "Profiling" works.....
     
  12. MErl

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    A separate profiling story. WY plates in CA will get you stopped with the first question out of the officers mouth related to guns. Profiling didn't work in that case.
     
  13. Swing

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    Well, maybe not the windshield, but I'd wager something was cracked .... ;)
     
  14. VoodooMountain

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    Exactly

    And if it wasn't cracked, which is why they were pulled over, then why even put that out there when so many weapons were supposedly so visible.

    Then the photos were cropped. There was an ammo can on the table showing the guns that said " shoot your local heroin dealer" but an hour later it was cropped so all that was shown was "heroin dealer" and the story reflected the fact that 3 heroin dealers were arrested....because all drug dealers drive a huge conspicuous vehicle with loaded guns in their lap

    Then guns/mags were replaced and added in the photos as the day progressed. Not to mention in some photos the firearms didn't match the descriptions in the story.

    The story itself also changed a few times.
     
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    Ugliest. Truck. Ever.
     
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    His motives were good; execution appears to be iffy.

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    "That man, John Cramsey, 50, whose 20-year-old daughter died in February of a drug overdose, posted on Facebook that he was going to rescue a 16-year-old girl who was in trouble.

    “I’m currently 11 miles outside of Brooklyn, New York, and going to a hotel to extract a 16-year-old girl who went up there to party with a few friends,” he wrote on the wall of Enough Is Enough, a group he administers to speak out against heroin abuse."
     
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    When my son and daughter-in-law visited Niagra falls, they made a point of renting an inconspicuous vehicle.

    From plinking trips to the mountain, there are probably empty casings in odd places all over his truck.

    Plus the rental had better gas mileage.
     
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    If only the traffic wasn't so horrendous on the BQE because of all the constriction. Then they wouldn't have had to go through the Holland Tunnel, LOL.

    I have to laugh at the comment about not being able to see the crack at highway speed. The entrance to the Holland Tunnel is something like 10-12 toll booths that then merge into two lanes in a couple hundred feet. There is no highway speed. The cops have plenty of time to get a good luck at every single vehicle that enters the tunnel.

    The graphics are what stands out on the truck. There are a lot of odd vehicles in NYC. I hate working in that city and know full well I will be profiled by the police.
     
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    It might have been Rick Grimes' group mistakenly hearing that NYC was a sanctuary city from the walking dead! (Actually it's sanctuary FOR the walking dead.)

    Honestly these guys aren't as crazy as the gun grabbers in charge.
     
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    Wouldn't they be protected by interstate travel laws? Not that I would want to try and find out.
     
  21. 45_auto

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    Looks like a crack in the windshield to me on the driver's side, about 1/4 of the way up above the windshield wiper arm.

    Could be a dirty streak, but it's in the opposite direction from what the wiper would leave.
     
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    I wonder what kind of reception that 'arrow antenna' gets?
     
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    Why would you be hauling drugs on your way to save someone from them?
     
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    Modern version of the A-Team. But much dumber. Maybe the B-Team. :confused:
     
  25. Speedo66

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    dragon813gt said "If only the traffic wasn't so horrendous on the BQE because of all the constriction. Then they wouldn't have had to go through the Holland Tunnel, LOL."

    Yeah, but if they took the BQE (Brooklyn-Queens Expressway), forget the crack. With the humongous potholes there, the entire windshield might have fallen out.

    That SUV's suspension would have been no match for that road. Guns flying around inside, who knows what might have happened. :rolleyes:
     
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