Why Don't You Just Paint "I have guns inside" on the side of it?

I think I saw something like this in a movie once:
Why did you pull me over, officer?
You have a cracked windshield.
Um, no I don't.
(Smashes flashlight across windshield) See? Right there.

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Thinking the same thing hammerklavier.

From what it appears, these guys were engaged in numerous illegal activities at the moment they were stopped.

They were about to commit a whole new set of crimes once they crossed into NYC.

At their destination they were probably going to commit even more crimes, possibly including violence.

All the time thinking that the ends justify the means.

Not all gun people are good folks and these give the rest of us a bad name. Indifferent to the fact they got busted. Sometimes that is what happens to people doing bad things. I am sure they had other (legal and ethical) options to solve their problem.

 

Anti-drug crusaders carrying marijuana and paraphernalia . . . :banghead:

Mike

 

Check your state law. Heroin is such an epidemic many states now allow OTC sales of Narcan and also issue kits to police.

 

Narcan is OTC in NJ.

 

Let's not pretend heroin and marijuana are substantially similar.

 

They had like $10 worth of weed in the truck and news reports about scary "drugs"" lol. Washington state might be tightening up on guns, but its good to see that people are gaining new freedoms elsewhere (recreational weed is perfectly legal here).

 

Wouldn't "perfectly" legal mean it wasn't still against federal law?

 

Yeah OK, you forget about the federal laws???

So no, it is not perfectly legal there.



Ha, noticed Elkins beat me to the post.


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DEA may be rescheduling Cannabis to Schedule 2. Make no mistake as this is the first step on the federal level for legalization. This is THR so I won't go into further detail.

 

Might have been a made-up story, but I read somewhere that there had been some babble on social media about their intentions. It was monitored by the cops, and the cops were on the lookout.

 

Undercover vehicle

 

More evidence that we are not one country. That van wouldn't get a second look from LE in my neck of the woods(except for the blue lights which are restricted to LE use only). Firearms related decals are common on vehicles here...even on cars belonging to young women...they are just pink instead of camo.

 

This would make sense.

And then make up a reason to pull them over and search.

 

Very true -- even in upstate NY, where you can see vehicles like that every day. In New York City, people would be looking around for the camera crew, figuring they were filming a commercial or something.

 

Who's "pretending"?

It's still a mixed message and pot does not legally mix with guns.

Mike

 

Is anyone else bothered that law enforcement might have been monitoring social media? Because I sure am. I understand that when you post to social media it enters the public domain. But active monitoring doesn't sit right w/ me. If they are it's simply another intrusion into your life under the guise of safety. In reality it does not make anyone safer.

 

I'll take the police at their word, and believe they stopped the vehicle for the cracked windshield.
Lots of folks bleat about 'opsec', but honestly, it's over blown.

 

We have at least one photo that shows the truck's windshield, or the vast majority of the windshield anyway.

 

Monitoring idiots who post illegal acts on public forums isn't a crime, just a way to harvest the low hanging fruit. Going into private emails or phone calls without a warrant is another story.

Stupid enough to brag on social media, you take the consequences. It's the interweb version of "hold my beer, and watch this."

 

I agree with Speedo.
You post it on a public forum, you have no expectancy of privacy. Why would the police NOT read it? It seems like they solve an awful lot of crimes because the cretins post pictures online and/or brag about their exploits.
However, monitoring private emails, phone calls or PMs is another story. To me, that is no different than breaking in to your home without a warrant.

 

Do we know what was posted on what social media?

Are we certain they posted something indicating their plan for illegal activity to a PUBLIC forum, with their name attached to it?

And if so, why were they pulled over for a "cracked windshield" that doesn't seem to exist?

 

Thread title is perfect.

 

http://heavy.com/news/2016/06/john-cramsey-higher-ground-tactical-pennsylvania-holland-tunnel-daughter-heroin-dealer-guns-facebook-photos-vigilante/?b2np=d

That has part of it. He may have made his full page private since this happened, on other discussions it was mentioned things he posted.

 

They both seem to be illegal in NJ.

Irony

A pretty solid example of making decisions based on emotion and not thinking things through.

I hope I never have to deal with the loss of my daughter, that's for sure.