Why Emphasize That It's A LOADED Gun?

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I will bet Border Patrol Officer Bill Jordan wished the pistol he used to negligently kill a fellow Cop was empty when he pulled the trigger. See post nine.

-Bill Jordan- Fast Draw- The Old Border Patrol-

be wary of "unloaded" guns!
Shouldn't it have been an automatic that when Bill Jordan picked that gun up to demonstrate his fast draw that he verified that it was unloaded?

I am the only person on this planet who knows the combination to my safe. My wife knows where it's written down but she doesn't have it memorized. My daughter doesn't know what it is but she does know where it's written down.

So long story short when I lock a gun in my gun safe it is there forever until I get it out. Nobody is going to come along behind me and load the gun without my knowledge

I don't care if I'm pulling a gun out of that safe it's been there for years. I don't care if I'm pulling a gun out of that safe that I don't even have ammunition for. I don't care if I just pulled it out and say 5 minutes ago

I verify that it is unloaded.
 
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Well, on Law and Order, SVU - Olivia loaded her Glock with rubber bullets so she could just stun a guy who was trying to set his girl friend on fire. Also, Elliot was taken hostage by a guy with a shotgun. Now Olivia is pointing her gun him at Elliot says to shoot. Oh, no - she squeels but then the guy puts the shotgun barrel OVER Elliot's should to aim at her. Might you then think about taking the gun away - of course not. I could go on.
I wasn't referring to Law and Order, SVU
 
All guns are always loaded unless it is purposefully demonstrated otherwise. Democrats and others in the entertainment biz feeel the need to generate or support hysteria in order to make their living. It's no wonder that they use hyperbole when speaking about the Tools of Freedom.
 
The term "loaded gun" to me, implies a greater risk or chance of AD if the shooter ,in fact, never intended to fire the weapon. (stupid comes to mind) Also, please note, that some differentiate the term "loaded" between a gun with a round in the chamber and one with an empty chamber but having one or more rounds in the magazine. To me, any gun with a round in the magazine is indeed loaded. I am no lawyer, but to me, if someone points a gun at me I am going to believe that it IS loaded and suffer the same fear and psychological damages regardless. I do not believe it is incumbent upon a victim to make the determination if the gun pointed at him or her is loaded, therefore - under the law it should be irrelevant as to the real threat of the weapon. It must be presumed to be loaded. Just my take....
 
All guns are always loaded unless it is purposefully demonstrated otherwise. Democrats and others in the entertainment biz feeel the need to generate or support hysteria in order to make their living. It's no wonder that they use hyperbole when speaking about the Tools of Freedom.

It's rich to use an expression like "Tools of Freedom" and then complain about media hyperbole. Not much hyperbole in the "Freedom Tool" accident described below, just some confusion from the utterly clueless, negligent and drug-using owner about the meaning of loaded- although they did screw up and call it a "Gun" in the headline 🙄

Sibling said gun that killed 3-year-old Omaha girl often found sitting out in basement
 
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So how many shows and movies have a gun pointed at someone AND then they rack it for emphasis. While the BG realizes - Hey, I could have grabbed the gun and /or bopped him? Reading a book where the good cop cocks his Glock hammer for emphasis!
I'm reading the "Prey Series" by John Sanford. It's VERY good and if you like lively Mystery try it. He's pretty good about guns, but slipped when he say's the character "put the Glock safety on." little things like that bother me.
 
There's a point I'm trying to make but I'm not sure how to connect my original post to what I'm trying to say in this one.

I read this in an NRA magazine, whichever one was focused specifically on the Second Amendment.

In the late fifties or mid sixties someone in Hollywood decided to make the Motion Picture Industry an agent for societal change.

That's when we started seeing episodes in which a character decides to try smoking and eventually decides it's not for him and that he's going to be his own man and not smoke.(Greg Brady)

The episode of Happy Days when Fonzie got glasses and proved wearing glasses can be cool.

They started introducing Gay and Trans characters on television shows.

And they started changing the way firearms were portrayed.

There never was a Private Citizen on Adam-12 who carried a firearm of any kind who wasn't incompetent or in violation of the law (The Buff/The Chaser). I don't remember the episode but the guy that ran out of his house with a hunting rifle and either shot somebody or shot at somebody and I think almost hit Reed.

According to the NRA there was even some committee in Hollywood that decided that going forward private citizens would never be shown as competent to handle firearms.

A common plot point became that somebody would try to burglarize the house. The head of the household bought a gun for self-defense and by the end of the show he would panic at almost kill one of his kids or his wife and decide that maybe he shouldn't have a gun in his house at all.

I said this before but even in the later seasons of Family Matters Carl Winslow was never shown wearing a duty belt or a gun. In Third Watch Colby Bell who played officer Ty Davis Jr was shown more than once getting home from work and unloading his duty gun and locking it up.

I'm not sure how to make the connection but I'm absolutely positive that when the writers have Abigail Baker emphasizing that a firearm was loaded it's part of the same thing.
 
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For the same reason that on many police dramas, when LEO's are approaching a suspect they call out to that suspect while they're still a good distance away, giving the suspect a chance to run. A foot chase with dramatic music follows. They do it for dramatic effect.
 
I'm reading the "Prey Series" by John Sanford. It's VERY good and if you like lively Mystery try it. He's pretty good about guns,
He is not perfect but is more knowledgeable than the average author.
But I do not see him favorably presenting private citizens with guns. They are usually criminal, crazy, or at least incompetent.
 
somebody was threatened

In the real world.........

In Pennsylvania, pointing a finger like a gun can be considered a criminal offense, specifically disorderly conduct, if it creates a hazardous condition or causes alarm or annoyance. One case involved a man who pointed a finger at his neighbor, and the court ruled it was disorderly conduct because it made the neighbor feel threatened.
 
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I guess it's to emphasize "Loaded" you could have shot someone. Much better for the antigun story. Now "UN loaded" gun is basically a expensive club or hammer. But still a antigun story. Because any gun is bad and scary. There will never be a progun story in mainstream media. They even hate LE guns.
 
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Sadly, we on this blog already know the answer - we consult the preachers and the choir is singing and no one else is in the church. Have we - like SNL - just exhausted our material? Does it really matter, no member of this church is going to change it. Now let us talk about a subject that really matters - near and dear to my heart - what do you think about milled drag lines to the approaches on revolvers? Now before you nay-nay, think about a shallow milled and finished impression the entire circumference of a revolver cylinder - not for function but for finished aesthetics - never an unsightly drag line! Now just take it in and think about it.
 
I'm reading the "Prey Series" by John Sanford. It's VERY good and if you like lively Mystery try it. He's pretty good about guns, but slipped when he say's the character "put the Glock safety on." little things like that bother me.
I like his books in general. He does make a gun mistake but if you listen to his commentaries on audio books, he admits that he screws up at times. The last Lette book was so so but she needs to move on from a Sig 938 as her EDC. Love it when another author makes a big deal of his guy loading up with DUM DUM bullets. Wow.
 
There's a point I'm trying to make but I'm not sure how to connect my original post to what I'm trying to say in this one.

I read this in an NRA magazine, whichever one was focused specifically on the Second Amendment.

In the late fifties or mid sixties someone in Hollywood decided to make the Motion Picture Industry an agent for societal change.

That's when we started seeing episodes in which a character decides to try smoking and eventually decides it's not for him and that he's going to be his own man and not smoke.(Greg Brady)

The episode of Happy Days when Fonzie got glasses and proved wearing glasses can be cool.

They started introducing Gay and Trans characters on television shows.

And they started changing the way firearms were portrayed.

There never was a Private Citizen on Adam-12 who carried a firearm of any kind who wasn't incompetent or in violation of the law (The Buff/The Chaser). I don't remember the episode but the guy that ran out of his house with a hunting rifle and either shot somebody or shot at somebody and I think almost hit Reed.

According to the NRA there was even some committee in Hollywood that decided that going forward private citizens would never be shown as competent to handle firearms.

A common plot point became that somebody would try to burglarize the house. The head of the household bought a gun for self-defense and by the end of the show he would panic at almost kill one of his kids or his wife and decide that maybe he shouldn't have a gun in his house at all.

I said this before but even in the later seasons of Family Matters Carl Winslow was never shown wearing a duty belt or a gun. In Third Watch Colby Bell who played officer Ty Davis Jr was shown more than once getting home from work and unloading his duty gun and locking it up.

I'm not sure how to make the connection but I'm absolutely positive that when the writers have Abigail Baker emphasizing that a firearm was loaded it's part of the same thing.
The use of radio, films, literature, and television as a tool for societal change happened long before the time frame you're mentioning. Look up the Hays Code of 1930 and Hollywood's self-censorship.

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The famous scene from The Great Train Robbery where a gun is pointed directly at a camera was verboten under the Hays Code.

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The Television Code was similarly adopted in 1951 and pretty much replicated the Hays Code. This was done because prior to 1951, the National Association of Broadcasters Code of Ethics for radio of 1935 was applied to television, but due to the difference in technology, the radio code really didn't work out.

Mass media is a very critical tool in the shaping and promotion of society. That's literally how propaganda works.

There was a change in Hollywood starting in the late 1950s. That change was that younger directors, actors, producers, etc. felt they were being smothered by the Hays Code and started to do more independent productions. There was a cultural revolution in Hollywood and a lot of it was telling the establishment to go fly a kite.

That led to a period from the 1960s to the early 2000s where a lot of great films were made. But since then, Hollywood has become what it was back in the 1940s and 1950s, a over-the-top controlled environment where no risk is taken with film and television.

The creative talent for story telling has shifted to video gaming. They take risk with plots, stories, characters, etc.

In video gaming, you see stories where the good guys are fighting tyranny or some criminal threat and they're using firearms in a way never depicted traditionally in film these days.
 
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So I really think as I'm asking this, the question is answering itself. I think to the untrained ear it sounds much more dramatic and scary to say that somebody was threatened with a loaded gun or that the criminal was caught with a loaded gun or that a loaded gun was found in the car then it would be to just say a gun was found in the car
I think you watch too much television.
 
Bullets in magazine, chamber empty = loaded but not loaded, not ready for immediate use.
Bullets in magazine and one in chamber, that is loaded.
Saying a gun is loaded when the chamber is empty and pulling the trigger won't result in a Bang...
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The more intimately knowledgeable one is about a certain subject, the harder it is to see it in fictional form. Call it a personal axiom, I guess. Imagine being a physicist watching star wars. "Loaded gun" sounds more menacing to people who aren't immersed in the culture/adherents of the four rules, etc.
Every one should be taught the 4 rules, whether they own guns or not.
 
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