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Why Glock over an XDM?

Discussion in 'Handguns: Autoloaders' started by KAS1981, Mar 29, 2012.

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  1. KAS1981

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    I'm buying a new pistol for my birthday next weekend. Finally!

    I've got a couple options. First possibility, what ever 1911 I find that tickles my fancy.

    Second option, is a Glock 17. Always figured I should have one in the collection. But, here's the thing. I like virtually everything about the XDm better--fits my hand better, looks cooler (I know, I know), I like that the sights are metal, the magazines are ALL metal, etc etc. What don't I like? It's a little heavier than the Glock.

    But for some reason I'm compelled to buy the Glock because......it's a Glock.

    Darn, it sure is tough trying to figure out how to blow money...LOL. :banghead: :)
     
  2. allaroundhunter

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    This should be your deciding factor.

    This is going to talk you out of the better gun for you.
     
  3. MAJ Mike

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    I own a Glock 19, a beloved M1911A1, an HK 45C, and just recently purchased a Springfied XD 45ACP. I'd recommend the XD because of the grip safety. It also shoots great and funstions perfectly.
     
  4. Aiko492

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    I have the XDm 4.5" 9mm as well as Glock 19 and 26 (and an HK USP) In my hand the XDm is much more comfortable and more accurate. However, (without and data-just gut feeling), I would pick one of the Glocks for reliability-my G26 is my EDC. My XDm is my favorite to shoot @ the range though. Happy Birthday!
     
  5. jackpinesavages

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    Choose a Glock over other Polymer guns because;

    a. They have been building polymer pistols and weapons since the 80s.

    b. The Glock aftermarket support is superior to the others.

    c. Glock has the best support customer service available.

    d. Buy from a 1st world nation (Austria) that supports jobs in the USA. (Smyrna, Georgia).

    e. Why buy from a 3rd world nation (SA's XD facility in Croatia) that supports slave labor, no human rights, and no labor contracts for positive human treatment?
     
  6. allaroundhunter

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    ....you are missing the most important reason that he shouldn't choose a Glock...

    From the OP:
    Once you start promoting an opinion instead of relying on what the OP is telling us is when it is no longer "advice"
     
  7. nater762

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    It will out shoot it, and it's not a wanna be!
     
  8. viking499

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    My decision was between Glock and M&P. I went with the M&P because it fit my hand better and had better ergos for me. Fit in my hand was worth it to me.
     
  9. Kiln

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    Both are great as far as reliability and durability go. The XDM feels better to me too, I had a Glock 22 that I got rid of but the XDM .40 is here to stay.
     
  10. wacki

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    Patents expire and people copy materials and production methods over time. Everyone has adopted the tenifer process and high tech polymers. Glock just doesn't have a materials edge anymore. Everyone makes a striker pistol now so they don't have a design edge either. In fact it's kind of silly to say that someone hasn't managed to design a marginally better striker pistol in the 30 years since Glock was invented. This is especially true given the lousy ergonomics of the Glock.

    Glock is mostly riding on reputation and the fact that everything is interchangeable which makes them an aftermarket dream world.

    If aftermarket parts and "fitting in" is what you want go Glock. But your post makes it sound like the Springfield will be a much better fit for you.

    I own a Glock. Do I like it? Yes. I shoot my other pistols a lot more though because they feel better. I also enjoy shooting them a lot more and I seem to shoot better with them.

    Am I glad I own the Glock? yes. But if I had to give up a pistol it would be one of the pistols that I shoot the least.
     
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  11. theQman23

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    I'ts not hard. Not hard at all. Just pay your taxes.:eek:
     
  12. Sapper771

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    Sounds like the XDm is going to be a better fit for you. The one I had was a pretty good shooter.

    I chose Glock over the others because I can easily (fully) disassemble it for thorough cleaning, spring changes, and parts upgrades. No roll pins or gunsmiths to deal with. Like stated above, the after market is huge. I can get new Glock mags for $20,which is slightly cheaper than XDm mags last time I checked. I can change the feel and weight of the trigger with a few inexpensive parts. That's all I can really think of right now.

    The Glock is a very good pistol too, as long as one takes the time to train with it.
     
  13. Inebriated

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    Get what fits you.
     
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    Choose what's best for you, and not follow the crowd.
     
  15. mingansr

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    KAS1981, don't even begin to listen to jackpinesavages' rant

    here you go again, j..p..s.. you have already gotten your ass whooped by many soldiers and other knowledgeable and informed and sage highroaders over this BS about the '3rd world Croatia'.

    KAS1981, you asked questions about xd over glock, and some answers you got from Maj Mike, Aiko492, Kiln, and others here should give you a good reason to go with what feels right for you. plain and simple. i own an XD 40, and i love it more each time i shoot it. i haven't shot a Glock yet, to be fair and honest. so don't take my word for it.

    if you want to read the story re: my initial paragraph here, go to the post

    'Springfield XD' by Okiegunner, Mar 10, 2012. you will see a real political fist fight, jackpinesavages against the world, and he lost! i got rather political in there too, i'll admit, but it seems i was backed up by some of our folks who keep us free, without us having to use our guns to defend our liberty. here's the thread for all to read.

    http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=648523

    jack pine, you savage, i love ya man, cuz you helped my needy brother sign up for a free C C class this coming saturday. i'm forever in your debt. and in thanks i offered for you to come to my range and warm some barrels. you declined thus far. perhaps you are afraid that you will shoot my xd 40 and drop all your other pistolas for an xd? let all highroaders know that the offer stands. i'll shoot your favorites, and you shoot mine. and afterwards i'll buy you some good beers or whatever you choose to drink. and my brother will be there to personally thank you, and buy you some more.

    to thehighroad moderators. this is not a war or personal thing. Kas1981 asked a simple question, so let him be given subjective/objective reply posts to help him in his quandary. as always, let's take the high road!
     
  16. mingansr

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    KAS1981, don't even begin to listen to jackpinesavages' rant

    here you go again, j..p..s.. you have already gotten your ass whooped by many soldiers and other knowledgeable and informed and sage highroaders over this BS about the '3rd world Croatia'.

    KAS1981, you asked questions about xd over glock, and some answers you got from Maj Mike, Aiko492, Kiln, and others here should give you a good reason to go with what feels right for you. plain and simple. i own an XD 40, and i love it more each time i shoot it.

    if you want to read the story re: my initial paragraph here, go to the post

    'Springfield XD' by Okiegunner, Mar 10, 2012. you will see a real political fist fight, jackpinesavages against the world, and he lost! i got rather political in there too, i'll admit, but it seems i was backed up by some of our folks who keep us free, without us having to use our guns to defend our liberty. here's the thread for all to read.

    http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=648523

    jack pine, you savage, i love ya man, cuz you helped my needy brother sign up for a free C C class this coming saturday. i'm forever in your debt. and in thanks i offered for you to come to my range and warm some barrels. you declined thus far. perhaps you are afraid that you will shoot my xd 40 and drop all your other pistolas for an xd? let all highroaders know that the offer stands. i'll shoot your favorites, and you shoot mine. and afterwards i'll buy you some good beers or whatever you choose to drink. and my brother will be there to personally thank you, and buy you some more.

    to thehighroad moderators. this is not a war or personal thing. Kas1981 asked a simple question, so let him be given subjective/objective reply posts to help him in his quandary. as always, let's take the high road!
     
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  17. GLOOB

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    Which one shoots better and is more reliable in your hands? If you can't answer that, then go with the one that looks and feels better. :)

    Oh, if you can't fire them for real, at least try the triggers. When you are testing the trigger of a semi-auto, be sure to test the trigger reset. Keep the trigger down while racking the slide. Of course, safety check it and keep it pointed somewhere safe. The Glock trigger reset is one of the things people seem to like a lot. It resets with a crazy positive click nearly at the exact spot where it breaks. Once it resets, you're ready to break the next shot with zero takeup. There's nothing else out there quite like it.
     
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  18. allaroundhunter

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    Even though I prefer my M&P's ergonomics over the Glock's.....the M&P reset does not come close to the Glock's in a stock configuration. I have never shot an XDm, but there aren't many pistols with a stock trigger reset that is better than the Glock's.
     
  19. 777TRUTH

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    allaroundhunter gave you sound advice, take heed.

    Personally I'd go 1911, but that is just me.
     
  20. carbonyl

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    I was wondering what type of jobs they support in Georgia. Given a choice I'd pick a company that is from the first world nation (USA) and manufactures their guns here. I'm sure Glock is as reliable and well made as they claim to be but I heard stories of how they cornered the law enforcement market. These were just rumors to me until I asked my LEO brother in law why his department went with Glock. He told me they made their range officer an offer he couldn't refuse. Up to this point he carried a S&W that he loved. When I asked him what he thought of the Glock he just said he got use to it.
     
  21. jackpinesavages

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    carbonyl: Glock's U.S. factory is in Smyrna Georgia, where they support American workers.

    That's my advice and just one reason per my opinion on buying a Glock, pertaining to the choice the OP mentioned. YMMV.
     
  22. hAkron

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    The Glock is NOT going to fit everybody's hand comfortably! There are many polymer guns at this level. Glock, XD, M&P(off the top of my head, not trying to leave out anybody's favorite)...they all deliver on shootability and reliability, find the one that fits you best and that you like best. It's like a Honda/Toyota/Nissan debate.
     
  23. ku4hx

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    Uh...buy the one you like more? I just did that with a new truck and I think it works for guns too.
     
  24. ku4hx

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    +1 I live about two hours East of them on I-20; I'm really pleased with their customer service. The two times I've actually used it since 1991.
     
  25. Hk Dan

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    Here is my advice:

    1) Forget "how it feels". After 25 rounds whatever you pick is going to feel natural and right--you'll get used to whatever you buy. As my dear old German Grossmutti used to say "You get used to hanging if you hang long enough" (she was a charmer) LOL

    2) Metal mags are a drawback not an advantage.

    3) The XD sits dramatically higher in your hand. The GLOCK will have better, flatter recoil impulses. Accuracy will be similar, and both adequate. Reliability will be similar, and both outstanding.

    4) The XD has a grip safety. The most useless thing on a gun since teats on a boar. Even John Browning agreed, and put it on the 1911 because the cavalry insisted on it. I have SEEN shooters at matches draw their XD, and then stand there with the gun pointing at the target sweating bullets and not firing. They might as well have been petting the neighbors dog. They missed the grip safety! And what does the grip safety do for you? Nothing. Most NDs happen on loading and on reholstering. In both cases you'll have a normal firing grip on the gun. Screw the grip safety, it adds complexity for virtually no benefit.

    5) The XD trigger has a long mushy pre-travel. It's an SA gun and shouldn't have it. Looking inside the gun, as nearly as I can figure, it has a long mushy pre-travel so it can have a long, mushy pre-travel. It's made that way!

    6) The parts are not uniform. If you want to change the sights on a GLOCK, buy the sights and put them on. The dovetails on the Croatian made gun are not uniform and require a gunsmith to fit the sights.

    I'd go with a GLOCK or an M&P. Both are vastly better guns.
     
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