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Discussion in 'Handguns: Autoloaders' started by tcoz, Jun 20, 2019.

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  1. tcoz

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    First, I want to make it clear that I’m neither a Glock lover nor a Glock hater. Like many, they’re a manufacturer of fine firearms, all of which have their place.

    My question is why all of a sudden for the past year or so are we seeing Glock everywhere? Blog articles, forum threads, videos, magazine articles, television gun shows, and an avalanche of aftermarket parts and accessories etc. I suspect that Glock must have opened their platform and maybe released some patents or had them expire which would explain the parts and accessories but that doesn’t (to me) explain the super high visibility of their guns everywhere, even on television drama shows. Is it money or something else that I don’t know about?

    Who can shed some light on this for me?
    Thanks in advance.
     
  2. badkarmamib

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    Why not Glock?

    First, I hate Glocks, FOR ME. I don't like the way they fit my hand, and I don't like the way I shoot them. But, I have nothing but respect for their reliability, versatility, and aftermarket support. I think that third point is the main reason for their fan base. They have more variety of holsters, barrels, and upgrades than any other pistol, with a possible exception to the 1911 (but which requires fitting of most parts). If I had it to do all over, I would have adjusted to Glocks at the beginning, and kept with them, but I like the way I shoot other models too much to change now. Are there more accurate pistols? Probably. Are there more reliable pistols? Debatable. Are there nicer-looking pistols? DEFINITELY. But, is there an easier pistol to maintain, upgrade, and transition from one caliber or size class? I truly doubt it.

    I also think a resurgence of "practical/tactical training", and the Glock's domination in that field, could be the reason for the renewed advertisement.
     
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  3. Fine Figure of a Man

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    I have not seen any change but, as my wife would tell you, I rarely notice anything.
    One thing I have noticed is some handguns from other makers garnering the kind of hatred once reserved only for Glock.
     
  4. crestoncowboy

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    A far as commercials, they just spend more.
    As far as TV dramas, they are used by a good majority of police forces. FBI, DEA, BATF and NY state and city all use glock. That makes up about 90 percent of the focus of TV shows. It also means every prop house has a crap load of glocks.( It also makes the inexplicable clicking of a hammer being cocked or a safety being disengaged by the users all that much more infuriating.) From what I've seen in cross department training, I'd bet there are more Glocks in use than all others combined. Remove Sig and I know that to be the case in my state.
    They are good, affordable, plentiful, and parts such as recoil springs (7 bucks for factory glock retail), pins etc are very reasonable. I keep a drawer full of pins, springs, mag releases and springs, etc to replace every part in 2-3 glocks and I'd bet the entire drawer full isnt 50 bucks. I've given almost double that for a recoil spring assembly for other brands. Mags are commonly 15-20 dollars civilian retail. Department cost would be much less. For the civilian consumer this doesn't mean as much. For a department its huge.
    I like hammer Fired guns for competition and hunting, but I carry a glock and often use one when teaching. I have a couple other striker fired brands but I prefer the Glock for carry. I dont feel they do anything best really(except for slide finish, I may give them that one.) But they do everything well.

    One thing I guarantee didn't lead to the increase of glock awareness as of late ( since 1990 or so lol) ....... innovation.
     
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  5. Labguy47

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    They saturated the market for years, practically taking over the LEO market. Then they got beat by Sig-Sauer for the military contract.
    Now everyone who went Glock is going Sig. Now no matter where ya look new or used you see tons of Glocks. The old gold standard. I won’t own one after a G32 hand grenaded on me due to bad metallurgy.
     
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  6. JTQ

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    The Gen 5 guns were released.
     
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  7. Mosin Bubba

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    Glocks have been everywhere for at least the last 10 years, I think you're just now noticing it.

    They're in every movie or TV show with cops, they're on pretty much every real-life cop's belt, you'll find one on any pistol range you go to, the company markets like crazy in the gun world, and they have a large and vocal "true believer" fan base who will burn through 10 pages on forums just arguing about the shape of their gun's rifling (and God forbid you bring up the 1911). To be honest, I suspect that you've seen so many Glocks that they've just faded into the background noise until now.
     
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    Why Apple?
     
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  9. GunnyUSMC

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    I've carried a Glock as a duty weapon for almost 17 years now. I'm not a Glock Fanboy, but I do like them.
    Glock has kept their guns simple and easy to work on. Go to any Police Dept. and you will find that they have a Member that is a Glock Armorer. Go to most gun stores that sale Glocks and you will most likely find a Glock Armorer.
    The Glock pistol has gone through several changes over the years. There have been several changes to the frame and the barrels.
    The biggest changes in barrels were from the Gen 3 to the Gen 4 and now the Gen 5 barrels.
    There were a lot of shooters that found Glocks just didn't fit there hands. Glock shorten the length of pull on the Gen 4 frame and added replaceable back straps.
    Glock has also put out several different guns in the last few years with the G 43X and the G 48 being the latest.
    Another thing about Glocks. No matter which one you pick up, they all pretty much function the same. You can't say that about any other major manufacture.
    The after market frames by Polymer 80 have a lot to do with the rapid growth of the After market for Glock parts.
     
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    I have never had any use for Glocks as they just didn't feel "right' to me. There are plenty of other semi-auto pistols that do, S&W M&P or Walther for example. I'm not going to spend time messing with something that I don't care for and so far that has been Glock and I have paid no attention to their guns over the years. Now, thanks to Gunny, I see they have added replaceable backstraps. I will look into this. I'm not saying I'm going to run out and buy one, just look and feel for the time being.
     
  11. bassjam

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    Glock is a lot like Harley Davidson. They make slow, minimal changes that are often not obvious to the casual observer, and then they rely heavily on marketing to convince people that being a Glock owner more than just a product choice, it's a lifestyle - black t-shirts and all.

    This really isn't a new phenomenon, but in the last few years they have brought out more new models then they typically do like the single stack 43 and 42, then the X models, as well as the Gen 5's. So for Glock, there have been a lot of new, uh, innovations, if you want to call it that. And new things tends to get the gun magazines and blogs talking.
     
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    Some have. Far from "everyone".
    Our troopers carry 229 or 226. But my local pd is replacing Glock 21 with a Glock 45. Neighboring pd went from USP to Glock 19. Many brands were looked in to. I have 2 320s. The triggers are very nice but I'd chose (and do so) a glock (or 229, 220, or 226 depending on caliber) over it for real use.
    The saturation of the market from what I've seen is more an exodus from .40 than ditching Glock. Many went with other brands. Many went with another Glock. I've seen a ton of 320, 226, 229, M&P, and USP in 40 for very good prices as well. All of those are fine duty guns if they fit you. I'd not feel at a loss with either of those if I were issued one.
     
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    Past year or so????

    Opie, where you been the last 15-20 years?

    Glock is a fine pistol.
    It is efficient in it's design, lighter weight for it's size, doesn't rust, safe, simple to operate, reliable, etc.

    That being said, they just aren't my choice.
     
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    When Glock first came out, my thought's were: it's plastic, it's ugly, it's expensive. Then we transitioned to Glocks, my thought's were: it's got 11 rounds rather than five (G26), it conceals better, it reloads faster, it's accurate and has night sights, and it's reliable.

    I bet there are over 100,000 LEO's in all branches of city, state, and federal gov't that feel the same way. For a duty gun it's hard to beat. It's not pretty? I really didn't care anymore, it just worked.

    So why not Glock?
     
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    Don't care for the finger grooves, but that got remedied in Gen5. I appreciate the utilitarian aspect of Glock and the fact that one can keep it running in one's garage with minimal tools and parts in perpetuity. The aftermarket parts, cheap magazines and simple design are appreciated by me.
     
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    I bought a Glock 17 not long after they were first introduced here. I didn't buy it for it's ergonomics or it's "looks"; actually I wanted one it for it's unique polymer frame construction and for it's claim as to overall reliability and durability. As it is it's the only Glock I own having tried a number of other Glocks but just not finding one that was a good fit that worked for me.

    I think you see Glocks everywhere simply because they are everywhere. From law enforcement, military forces around the globe, and civilian owners, people have found them to be simple to operate, easy to work on, and very reliable and dependable. Things like that will always insure a company the most recognition and the lion's share of the market!

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    I actually went the other direction, a little over a decade ago. I went form SIG to Glock, and havent regretted doing so in the least.

    I still have a couple of my SIG's, but sold the rest off and started buying Glocks. I still like the SIGs, I just get a good bit more for my money with the Glocks.

    About a month ago, I sent off one of the first 17's Id bought about 10 years ago when I switched from SIG off to Glock to see if they would fix it. Its been my weekly practice gun since I got it, and had at least 300 rounds a week through it, from day one.

    The left rear rail had broken off while shooting and even broken, the gun was still running. Didnt notice it was broken until I got home that day and was cleaning it. The (low ball) round count was 147,400. In reality, its probably over 150,000, as Ive been going by the 300 a week count, and not the actual count. There were many times I shot more than 300 rounds in a week, but never less.

    In all that time, the only other things to go, were a trigger return spring at around 90,000, and another at around 120, 000.

    The gun was also 9 years out of warranty and had had the grip stippled a couple of times, which Ive often been told, would void any warranty. Maybe it was a good thing it was "out" of warranty then. :p.

    Got a call from Glock a couple of days after sending it off, and they said they were covering it under warranty, replacing the frame, and completely rebuilding the rest of the gun. Go Glock!! :thumbup:

    All it cost me, was the $25 it cost to send it down. Had it back in two weeks too.

    Just got back from the range with it right now, and put another 300 rounds through it. New count, about 800 rounds. I think Im gonna quit counting at this point.

    I also have a 26 that I bought at the same time, that I also use in practice. It gets 100 rounds or so through it every other week or so. It had a little over 26,000 rounds through it when I quit counting, and thats been a while back.

    I carry one or two daily (a 17 and often a 26 with it) and have since I switched. I work and play outdoors, and in all weather. Glocks have been the easiest guns overall to deal with, especially considering what Ive had to go through with other guns over the years with constant rust. Ive carried my Glocks the same way I carried everything else, and have had very little rust issues with them.

    The slide stop lever tends to lose its finish from use and holster wear, and is the only spot on my guns that have ever shown rust. And even then, it was light.

    My last Colt Commander was a pretty Colt blue when I bought it, and it didnt last its first summer before it was off the to gunsmith to have the pits polished out of the slide and get the gun hard chromed.

    The biggest thing Ive found with the Glocks is, they are a very basic/simple, utilitarian, hard use gun, that thrives in environments that many of the others would struggle with, and/or flat out fail in, even with constant care and pampering. They just work, and with no drama.

    They arent "Perfection", nothing is. But they are definitely closer than most to it, especially if you want an everyday, any environment gun, that doesnt need to be coddled.

    Even though I really dont like the term, once youve lived with one on a daily basis for a while, its pretty hard not to be a fanboy.
     
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    It's like asking why so many characters in movies drink Coke. Combination of being the marketshare leader in real life and aggressive marketing/product placement.

    I think several million Glocks got sold on the basis of that Tommy Lee Jones line. I don't know how much they paid for that, but it was worth it.
     
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    Had the same thought.

    See even Jones new 20 years ago that Taurus sucks. :cool:
    ("Sissy Pistol" was a PT945)
     
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    I think maybe it’s been going on for some time and you are just noticing it.
     
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    The best analogy I've heard for a Glock, specifically the Glock 19, is that it's the Toyota Camry of handguns. It's basic transportation, it does everything adequately but nothing really exceptionally. That's really all I need out of a $500 gun.

    There's a Firearms Forum called pistolforum.com. its clientele consists of notable instructors, gun magazine writers, quite a few cops and various other people who carry guns professionally and quite a few that have actually had to defend themselves with a handgun.

    Every year one of the members does a survey who's carrying what and and the number of respondents who choose to carry a 9 mm Glock consistently is about 85%. There's probably another 5% that carry Glocks in some other caliber and the remaining 10% account for all other guns and calibers combined. This indicates to me that I did not make the wrong choice.

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    Glock has introduced several new models in the last couple of years plus competed for the military trials. That is going to get them a lot of press. But overall I think the increased competition has taken a bit of their market share.

    As to Glocks in general it took me a long time to try one. I picked up a used one at a price where I knew I'd be able to get my money back after I tried it and didn't like it. Except I did like it and I've bought several more. In addition to several G19's and a G17 I've added a G20, G21, and a G29. I honestly can't say that I have a bit of sentimental attachment to any of them and I've tried several others in the hopes I could replace the Glocks. But I always keep coming back. They simply work best for me.
     
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    I don’t own a Glock (yet, plan on getting a model 19 and a 357 sig model) but Glock is easily the best no-nonsense get the job done pistol out there. Plenty of parts to spare, easy to replace, great magazine capacity, lightweight, durable, and I could keep going. But you get the point. Ain’t much out there the can replace that; why fix something that ain’t broke?
     
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    New products. Marketing.
     
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    Because if you want to stick with one brand/platform for all your HD/SD/CCW/competition needs with every caliber option there really is no better option out there. This coming from a guy who’s first gun was a G17C 17 years ago that was sold about 5 years later for a CZ75b and who has owned and sold just about everything and never went back to Glock, but just acquired a G29 and love it and is contemplating things again.
     
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