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why is joining a gun/shooting club so complicated?

Discussion in 'General Gun Discussions' started by noob_shooter, Mar 12, 2010.

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  1. noob_shooter

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    -Requires hours of work
    -MUST be voted in or cancel!
    -Several fees. Some fees seem a bit over the edge

    and many more requirements...
     
  2. f4t9r

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    problem here is it takes years to get in.
     
  3. TexasRifleman

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    Long waiting list for mine, we only allow so many members at a time to keep from being overcrowded.

    But, once in, it's very cheap.... $100 a year. We rent portions of the range out during the week to a few small town LE agencies and host a monthly IPSC match for cash flow.

    Guess it depends on the location and cost of land and insurance.
     
  4. bobelk99

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    It's 'complicated' because everyone wants a place to shoot, and a lot of guys don't seem to be motivated to take care of the resources. Thus the referrals etc.
     
  5. hso

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    You have to be referred at most clubs and voted in. Considering the liability the clubs take on it's no surprise that they don't want just anyone off the street to become members.

    As to the "hours of work", it's either that or expensive membership fees. Also, "sweat equity" ensures a sense of ownership of the facilities that helps preclude carelessness with the facilities.

    I'm not sure what you mean by "several fees". There's usually a single fee to join to access the outdoor shooting ranges. Some clubs charge additional fees for their indoor range or for the clays range because these have additional facilities to maintain. There's usually a key or key card fee if you loose your key.
     
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  6. TexasRifleman

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    Actually yes, that reminds me that we have one of those.

    We have some steel plates on the pistol ranges and for an extra fee you can get a key to the padlock to use them. I don't use that but a small fee for that seems reasonable, steel plates don't last forever.
     
  7. MMCSRET

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    My annual membership is $50.00. This year we all had to take a safety orientation presentation, only an hour or so, in order to renew membership, insurance required it. Kind of a pain, but worth it, good range and good organization.
     
  8. EddieNFL

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    Pretty simple compared to joining my primary range. Only $60 annually, but there's a test involved.
     
  9. noob_shooter

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    well, i guess i will continue to be a pay per session guy then... i will never get in one.
     
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    I have never heard of this before.

    Makes me afraid now that I just moved.

    My last one was 75 per year no waiting and everyone got in.
     
  11. Hatterasguy

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    In CT its nuts, its simpler to join a Yacht Club than a gun club.

    They run about a G note a year to join, and you have to get on the waiting list and wait for someone to die to get a spot.
     
  12. hso

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    You're lucky if you can "pay per" for access to a club range since most clubs are open only to members and their guests.

    There are ranges with pay per use fees that may also have "club" annual use fee for unlimited use, but they're commercial ranges, not clubs.
     
  13. Mt Shooter

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    Was on a waiting list for 5 years....now 80 bucks a year for a first class range. pistol bays , pistol-22/black powder. sporting clays, trap, skeet. Hand throw pattern area. 300 yd rifle range, with seats and benches and cover archery. two area's for ranges and down in the coolies live size targ's....ya was worth it
     
  14. Magic_Man

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    I think it's stupid. I just want to go to the range & shoot when I have the time. I don't have time to clean, attend meetings, etc. I clean up my brass when I'm done. That should be enough.
     
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    The local IDPA host is like that. $10 to enter the match, and you have to be a member of IDPA of course.

    Other than that I just go to one of two sandpits near my house. I am lucky in that aspect.

    I was a member of a club last year, but too many guys with more money then personality would go there so I saved my money. They can have it.
     
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    There are two clubs fairly close to where I live. One requires that you pay a fee for a background check in addition to membership dues. You apply at one monthly meeting and then you have to wait a whole month for them to approve you at the next meeting. I asked them if a top secret military clearance and a concealed pistol license would exempt me from their background check. NOPE.

    So, instead I drive 25 minutes to the farther club, pay $60/year dues, $25 NRA membership, sit through a one hour safety/rules class and I'm in. Somebody at that first club is just using the club to line their pockets doing background checks.
     
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    The best club I've found in north FL is about $225 to join and about half that in annual dues. Otherwise, as a "day shooter," it's $14. Members have access to better rangers with less supervision.
     
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    Sounds like a commercial range is perfect for you.
     
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    I would never join a club that would allow me to be a member. I have very high standards.

    Thanx, Russ
     
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    Then the thing to do is suggest a fee structure based on folks that want to just use the facilities for a higher annual dues payment and the lower fees for folks that want to invest the sweat equity.
     
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    You can do all that, at a commercial range. Because you don't feel like putting forth the necessary effort to join a club doesn't make it stupid.
     
  22. Magic_Man

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    & I do it at commercial ranges, but I want to shoot more than 25 yards.
     
  23. BullfrogKen

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    Then go to a for-profit range, meaning a business, and go shoot there at the half-hour rental rates.


    Gun clubs are clubs. They're not for-profit, they are NON-for-profit entities.


    It's impossible to answer the original poster's question without knowing more about the local conditions.


    When I lived in Maryland there were two non-for-profit clubs in the entire county, which is one of the most populous counties in Maryland. Membership at one ran a couple hundred dollars a year. Expenses were high, because Maryland is an anti-gun state.


    Here in PA, memberships generally run from $35.00 per year to as much as $100.00 a year, again depending on the club. Some have more expenses than others.


    I know a little bit about what it takes to run gun clubs. Different clubs try to address their issues in different ways. Some rely more on volunteer time to keep the place up. Some don't have much success in volunteerism and make mandatory work days. Others don't find either successful and just charge more to the membership.


    As far as sponsorship goes, you guys have to understand that when you join a private club, you literally get the keys to the door, and many times at the non-for-profits you're there completely unsupervised. Often you also get some sort of voting rights within the organization, meaning you have a right to determine how club money is spent, the by-laws, etc.

    You'll have to forgive these places if they want to know who you are and what sort of member you'll be before you get those priviledges.
     
  24. BullfrogKen

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    I don't care to belong to a club that accepts people like me as members.


    - Groucho Marx
     
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    'Cause they want to keep the riff-raff out. Some clubs will require a background check if you don't have 3 sponsors. Others will only sign you on as a full member after you've been a probationary member for 6 to 12 months. The work hours add to the member's sense of ownership along with the upkeep of the facility/acreage.

    Think about it...would you want gangsta wannabes or other idiots in your sportsman's club shooting sideways, rapid firing their 9's, not obeying the range officer or shoot stoppages while you're swapping targets, leaving shells hulls everywhere, or shooting the target holders? I don't.



     
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