jim in Anchorage
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I don't like it. She's got thick knees...Merle1, I think there are still a few posts in this thread you forgot to like so here is one more for you!
Why is the 45-70 so popular?
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midland man
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I would marry her!!Merle1, I think there are still a few posts in this thread you forgot to like so here is one more for you!
wow!! well she can borrow my gun anytime!!!!!!salt&battery
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I cant believe this. I lend my marlin 45/70 to my girlfriend and she is posing with it on gun forums!! I am on my way over her house to get my rifle backMerle1, I think there are still a few posts in this thread you forgot to like so here is one more for you!
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maybe try to get a job here as a moderator then only posts you like will be permittedThanks, but there was more than one I didn't like......
I'm not interested in censuring people, I just call BS when I see it. It appears some folks don't like that.
midland man
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doesn't bother me my our internet was out for 24hrs until this morning so I was on my phone but its crappy to use unlike a laptop like I use! but I don't mind throwing dirt and takin it too!
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yeah but then Robert the terminator comes along and closes the threaddoesn't bother me my our internet was out for 24hrs until this morning so I was on my phone but its crappy to use unlike a laptop like I use! but I don't mind throwing dirt and takin it too!
yeah but then Robert the terminator comes along and closes the thread
"Robert the terminator". Now that's funny. This thread has wandered quite a bit and it's still open.....for now.
As far as nostalgia goes, if we didn't have nostalgia, there would be many cartridges that would no longer be on the market.
The 44mag, 45ACP, 308, 30-06, 270, 223, 243, 375H&H, 45-70 and about 100 other calibers would all be off the shelf. Even many of the bottleneck magnums. Hell the .223 is 67-69 years old depending on if you use the design date or the production date. Yet the AR has simply exploded in popularity in the last few years. And it's main produced caliber? The "nostalgic" 223. So I don't think it's nostalgia that keeps it's going. It's still a performer.
*Merle1, don't "like" this post. Then no one can complain.
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Me too, but I'm wanting more .45/70 talk !!!???Sorry, but I did "like" this post.....
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I would love to shoot some elephants with my new 45-70 Govt.
Well "jack of all, but master of none" was mentioned earlier about another cartridge. The iconic 30-06. And it applies to many cartridges. I believe that to actually be quite a compliment. And I believe the same compliment applies to the 45-70. It can do it all from medium, to heavy, thick skinned, game.
I started a thread about a year ago asking about the term "adequate" because so many used it in almost a negative connotation. There were several opinions about what it meant. But the consensus was that "adequate" meant that it could do the job well. However, some things could do it "better". Well, the 45-70, with proper loads is very "adequate" for anything on this planet. It wasn't designed as a long range cartridge. Can it be? Yes. Should it be? Probably not. But that shouldn't stop anyone from trying if they so choose. Nor should we.
We all have things that we like, for our own reasons. We have choices, preferences, and perceptions. Some are completely unfounded or based on any mathematical ballistic evidence. But that doesn't stop us from liking them. While others, tend to be more evidence based on their preferences. And that's ok too.
In truth, the 45-70 does require those hunters using it to A) be more skilled at stalking. B) place blinds or stands closer to known trails. C) practice more with known distance/trajectory. But so what? Why is that bad? It isn't bad. It makes us better in my humble opinion.
I don't own or use quickloads or any other ballistics technology, other than a chronograph and reloading manuals. But I don't need those things to tell me that every single animal I have ever given a 325 Ftx, 405 MBC #1 Buffalo, or 350gr Hornady RN, has NEVER needed a follow up shot. That's not to say I won't ever have to. But there's only one reason I will ever need to give another with that cartridge.... I, made a bad shot. It will never be the fault of cartridge. Because it very adequate.
And one other thing before I crash out.... If Jim in Anchorage and Llama Bob go hunting in.... Colorado. And Jim shoots a 340", 1002lb elk with his '06 with 180gr whatevers. And Llama shoots a 340", 1002lb elk with a 308 with 180gr whatevers. And then I fly in the next day and the following day I shoot a 340", 1002lb elk with my 45-70. And all 3 elk drop in their tracks DRT. Which cartridge performed better?
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Don't you know you can't possibly hunt elk in the wide open expanses of Colorado with a .45-70? A 7mm STW or Dakota is the bare minimum in terms of reach
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It doesn't matter. None of them performed as well as my beloved .308 Norma Magnum would have.
It doesn't matter. None of them performed as well as my beloved .308 Norma Magnum would have.
Lol. Which in essence, proves my point.
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Easy - the hunter carrying the 45-70 performed better because they had to get closer. LOL
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Well, I was going to do it with a .54cal muzzleloader so I know for a fact it will only take one shot.
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lol I can do it with my 45 caliber muzzleloader
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I'm having trouble picturing "big bore" Llama hunting elk with a .308. What would his buddy Elmer say?
I'm not sure. But if he were alive, I bet he'd at least give my question an answer. That's the problem with a question posed the way I posed mine. Because the answer is simply that none of the 3 could have performed better than the other as they all achieved a DRT. And all three cartridges HAVE achieved that result before in real life.
I love all I've my rifles. They all do their job when I do mine. From my Marlin 60 to my 1895. I could care less about shoulder angles, case capacity, the fact my 444 and 45-70 don't burn powder as efficiently as a bottleneck cartridge, or if my rifle is long or short action. I care that I find the right load that my rifle likes the best to be the most accurate/consistent. And then I go kill stuff with it. And my 45-70 has never let me down. Nor has any other rifle I own. I pull the trigger, stuff dies. Simple as that.
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Hard to argue with meat in the freezer!
I had a nice H&R Single-shot in 47-70 that I bought off my wife's husband on a whim. I liked it even though I didn't shoot it much. I gifted it to my wife's nephew who loved guns, but it was destroyed in a house fire a year later. I think people like it because its a very hot cartridge that can be fired out of a commonly available and affordable lever-action rifle, the Marlin. I assume that 90% of the folks who own a .375 Holland and Holland bolt-action have never taken a shot at an elephant or a Cape Buffalo, but get a Walter Mittyish thrill out of owning a big boomer. I know a very pleasant corrections officer that owns one of those Barrett .50BMG semi-autos as HIS ONLY GUN! Its the same principle with the 45-70 Govt.
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