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Why Is The Steyr AUG So Damn Special?

Discussion in 'Rifle Country' started by SteyrAUG, Feb 3, 2003.

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  1. SteyrAUG

    SteyrAUG Member

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    All many know about them is they are really expensive and many wonder what the big deal is. So it is my intention to point out some of the features and functions of these weapons.

    I will focus more on user features than technical data which is available anywhere. I will also omit the standard history and development of the weapon.

    This way the indivdual can decide if it is something they would like to own for themselves.

    First things first, like most preban firearms, the Steyr AUG has a artificially inflated price due to a ban on importation and limited availability. Currently they go for anywhere from $3,500-4,200.00 depending upon local demand. When they were imported they retailed for about $600.00. For referrence a Colt Green Label A2 20" retailed for $300.00 at the same time. So they were roughly 2x what a good AR15 would cost. The only reason preban AUGs command 3x the price of preban ARs is there are fewer AUGs than AR15s.

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    The AUG we will be looking at is a Standard 20" Green.

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    The first BFD feature is the interchangable barrel system. Right above the forward grip is a knob that when slid over disengages the barrel lock.

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    When depressed the barrel releases.

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    The concept is rather than carry sniper rifles, assault rifles and SMGs, everyone carries the same weapon with 3 barrels. A short 16" for SMG use, a 20" for AW use and a 24" HBAR for sniping applications.

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    The forward pistol grip folds for ease of carrying spare barrels or shooting prone.

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    Behind the magazine is the magazine release button.

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    It is oversized so that it may be operated with another magazine.

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    Magazines are clear so ammo supply can be monitored.
     
  2. SteyrAUG

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    On the cocking knob is a small button that when depressed functions as a forward assist to manually seat the bolt. The safety is a standard crossbar behind the trigger.

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    Field stripping is done by removing the rear sling pin and buttplate.

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    In the buttstock is a storage area for the clean kit.

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    The operating system is simple. Cocking handle is on left and it has a last shot bolt hold open. Optics are a Swarovski 4x scope.

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    A feature overlooked by many is the iron sights on top of the scope tube.

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    Standard circle (Donut of Death) reticle. Optics are much better than the pictures suggest.
     
  3. 762x51

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    Some nice Aug pics in there. Nice gun. Congrats.
     
  4. Hkmp5sd

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    I don't care why they are special, I just want one!! :) And a select fire one at that.
     
  5. Joe Demko

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    Because you have one?
     
  6. Schuey2002

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    "Why are they so Damn special?" *shrug*

    Who cares?! They just look "DAMN" coooooooool! :D

    Once again, I'm jealous of your collection. :banghead:

    Your simply evil, Steyr Aug .... Evil, I tell you ! :evil::D :evil:
     
  7. SteyrAUG

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    FYI, the "What Is So Special About..." is a series of posts I did on another forum. Also did "What Is So Special About The HK MP5", etc.

    Most people know these guns are top of the line by reputation, but don't know exactly why.
     
  8. Wildalaska

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    Having owned them and shot them, full and semi, they are nice toys that are clearly waaaaay down the list of useful military weapons.

    Great for collectors, general gul lovers and Hollywood commandos...also make excellent wolf hunting rigs for snow machine hunting.

    WildasktheaussiesAlaska
     
  9. SteyrAUG

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    I got two guys on my crew who were Aussie SASR who strongly disagree with your evaluation.
     
  10. Deadman

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    SteyrAug where in the sam hell did you get a 4x scope for your Aug :confused: Afterall the standard is a 1.5x scope.


    Even though I've used the Aug extensively in the Australian Army, I don't share your enthusiasm for the Aug. Maybe thats due to the fact that I've used 5+year old versions that have been dragged through dirt and mud and then not cleaned properly etc., whereas you have a brand new well maintained rifle.
    But nonetheless there are a few points you failed to mention.

    - The cocking handle being made out of plastic is very susceptible to damage, especially when dragged through an obstacle course for eg. (if not broken off entirely).

    - If the foregrip is loose, it will decrease accuracy by affecting
    barrel harmonics.

    - The thin barrel heats up to quickly and has been known to bend if someone is to aggresive when it comes to bayonet fighting drills.

    - While the Aug does have iron sights ( or 'emergency battle sights' as the Aus. Army calles them ), the sight radius is only about 5 inches.

    - While I have utilised the clear aspect of Aug mags to see how many bullets remain, once your down to the last 12 or so rounds, those rounds will be hidden by the butt stock.

    Now don't get me wrong, I'll be the first to admit that the Aug is a compact, light and user friendly rifle that will get the job done when required. But its not the greatest rifle out there, and definately not worth $3000+.
     
  11. Zundfolge

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    I would own one in a heart beat if I could ... but other then American gun collectors I've never heard anyone who has had to carry one on duty say many nice things about them.


    Now an FAMAS. THATS a great bullpup rifle :)
     
  12. Braz

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    The most beautiful of all black (and green) rifles.

    None has it's graceful, sweeping lines. Thanks for the walk-thru SA. I'd like to request the M4 as your next article. I wasn't in the military and would love to learn more about it's bolt assist and manual of arms. Manual aperture control will help with close-up focus if you use a tripod. Have fun!
     
  13. dude

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    I bought one from Jim's pawn shop back in the pre-ban/Army days but was not happy with the ballance, fit and shootability as compared to an AR-15 A1 and never shot it much.


    I sold it a few years back for an OBSCENE profit.
     
  14. SteyrAUG

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    Sorry that spec was from one of my A2 AUGs. You are correct the Standard A1 is a 1.5x.

    And many of your complaints listed below pertained to original A1 versions manufactured for the Aussie Army that were NOT manufactured by Steyr of Austia.

    -The cocking handle being made out of plastic is very susceptible to damage, especially when dragged through an obstacle course for eg. (if not broken off entirely).

    - If the foregrip is loose, it will decrease accuracy by affecting
    barrel harmonics.

    - The thin barrel heats up to quickly and has been known to bend if someone is to aggresive when it comes to bayonet fighting drills.

    - While the Aug does have iron sights ( or 'emergency battle sights' as the Aus. Army calles them ), the sight radius is only about 5 inches.

    - While I have utilised the clear aspect of Aug mags to see how many bullets remain, once your down to the last 12 or so rounds, those rounds will be hidden by the butt stock.


    A couple to be addressed specifically.

    ALL AUGS are piss poor for bayo use. The barrel is vulnerable and the mount sucks.

    And yeah, when getting low you cannot see the final rounds in the mag. But how many are left in your M16? :D


    Never said it was the greatest, and as noted above the price is artificial. On the international market they cost about $1000.00.
     
  15. Zundfolge

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    What do you think of the USR?

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    There's 3 of them on Gunbroker. One for $2600 and two for $2700.

    Other then the addition of a piece of plastic between the bottom of the grip and the stock to make a sort of thumbhole stock (to get around Comrade Clinton), I don't see any real difference.
     
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    So what, exactly are the differences between the AUG A1 and A2?
     
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    Why does the USR need the extra "thumbhole" piece? Looks like a pistol grip would be it's one legal evil feature without it.
     
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    I think that foldy-down foregrippy thing makes another evil feature. Can't have the rubes playing tommy gun y'know... they might get ideas.



    -K
     
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    Okay, so a bad case blows its head next to your ear. Do you lose hearing in both ears, or merely one?:(
     
  20. SteyrAUG

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    Basically the diff between the AUG and the USR is:

    1. Thumbhole stock that inhibits one handed mag changes.

    2. USR does not have the same quick change barrel system.

    3. No flash hider bull barrel on the USR.

    4. The USR does have the removable scope/rail system found on the AUG A2, a advantage over the A1 AUG.

    5. USR only comes in gray.

    The AUGA2 (special receiver) will accept full auto parts where the AUG A1 required modifications for legal title II conversions to full auto.

    Additional info:

    The foregrip is not a "evil feature" listed in the 1994 AW ban. The thumbhole stock on the USR allowed it to be imported as a "sporter version" when the AUG was banned in 1989. The USR was banned shortly thereafter.

    tex_n_cal, don't know yet. ;) But I was present for a M1A Kaboom and it rang my ears a good 10 mins and severly injured the shooter. Also was present when a .308 Galil ARM went and that one wasn't quiet either.
     
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    Nice rifle ya got there Steyr :)

    Here's another one..

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  23. Wildalaska

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    Hmm are we gonna contend its superior to the M16? Or superior to the G3 or FAL or even an AK as a military weapon...??

    And no offense to the Aussies, they are our allies, but not major players...

    Of course the AUG is far better that that thing the Brits use...

    WilditsanicetoyregardlessAlaska
     
  24. SteyrAUG

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    Zundfolge, you should be looking for AUGs in the $3,500-4,200.00 price range. If you can't find one in that range email me and I will.


    Wildalaska, I don't think your gonna get them to say that. And it's not what I was trying to say either. I'd easily say it is superior to the AK (except in very specific AOs) but overall it is less desirable than a M16 variant.

    And yeah the AUG remains better than the SA80 (L85A1) even with the SA80A2 variant offered by H&K.

    Let me say this, I'd be very comfortable kitting out with a AUG.
     
  25. Wildalaska

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    Come on Steyr...:what:

    The Steyr Aug has an accuracy advantage over the AK...and thats it....and even that does not matter on the modern battlefield...

    Its far less sturdy...or to put it another way, far more fragile...

    Im sure you recall the receiver cracking problem....

    I like them..they are cool..if thats all I had when the balloon went up, Id use it...but it would never be my first choice for a battle rifle...

    WildletsbereasonablehereAlaska
     
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