Why no 22 mag semi auto pistol?

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  1. theboyscout

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    I just got a Taurus tx 22 and love it. Then I got my father to shoot. And he said the same. He asked why don't they have a 22 mag like this.

    Why don't any gun company make a semi auto 22 mag that could be carried like the Taurus tx22?

    If ones out there please let me know.
     
  2. American_Fusilier

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    Kel Tec makes a 22mag pistol. PMR30 it's called I think
     
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    Keltec PMR-30
     
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    Honestly, probably not much demand. Rimfires are statistically more prone to misfires, plus the length of 22 mag requires the grip to be a good bit bigger front to back than 380, which would be the next step up generally speaking.

    KelTec makes a 22 Mag handgun but it isn't all that concealable. Doable, but not really designed to be concealed.
     
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    The PMR 30 and the big brother CMR30 are just about the most fun you can have by pulling a trigger.
     
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    I merged these two identical threads
     
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  7. Gus Chiggins
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    It gives you a good reason to buy a revolver.
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  8. Mizar

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    For a start, .22 WMR is a costly round. But more importantly, one cannot just make a simple blowback pistol in .22 WMR - the case is too thin and that brings quite a few problems. You need a delayed blowback system for that, or a locked breach one and not everyone is willing to invest in such design for a cheap plinker, shooting an expensive round with unimpressive ballistics.
     
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  9. tarosean

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    Other companies that produced a Semi-22mag
    AMT
    Rock island
    Grendel
     
  10. CDW4ME

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    https://www.taurususa.com/pistols/taurustx-22/taurustx-22-hard-anodized-black-22-lr-black-polymer-frame-16-round-non-manual-safety
    L- 7''
    H- 5.4

    Glock 19: L- 7.3" / H- 5''

    The tx22 is about the same size as a Glock 19
    Most people would rather defend themself with 9mm than 22 (me included).

    Most people likely think centerfire ammo more reliable than rimfire (me too).
     
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  11. doubleh

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    RIA makes one, a full size 1911 look alike. It is very ammo finicky. I have given serious thought to trading it off although I like to shoot it when I can find the ammo it likes. The trouble is ammo for it costs more than some 9 mm. For that price you get as much or more noise but less whop.
     
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  12. FL-NC

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    The current production Keltec has had good report but I have never messed with one. I would not call it concealable. AMT made one years ago that I never heard anything good about.
     
  13. Remington1911

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    A lot of those things from AMT or any flavor of the AMT company always comes with a big question mark.
     
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    As to the 22mag I really like that round, however like others said shooting it is like shooting centerfire price.
     
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    Rock Island Armory makes the 1911 A1 XT
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    The Excell Acellerator
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    and my favorite is my KelTec PMR 30

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    If you can find one the AMT Automag 2
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    I have several KelTecs including a PMR 30. After a break-in period and a learning curve on loading the magazines with the recommended ammunition, it has functioned reliably. I carry it working outdoors around the place. DRT on ground squirrels. A different shape but not larger than a 1911 and much lighter. I can conceal either with the appropriate clothes.
     
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  17. barnetmill

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    It does make sense in those tiny 4 and maybe now 5 shot revolvers, but not a semiauto. I think that those little revolvers come with conversion cylinders.
     
  18. gobsauce

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    I think you're talking about the NAA revolvers. Yeah, some of those are chambered in .22 mag.

    https://northamericanarms.com/product-category/firearms/22-magnums/
     
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    If I remember correctly, short barreled NAA revolvers in .22 WMR showed some mighty unimpressive ballistics - just marginally better than the .22 LR variants.
     
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    I ran across some 22WMR in Academy the other day. $22 a box. Right below it was the same number of 9 mm for $28.
     
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    While it can be done, you are fighting a rimmed cartridge in a magazine the whole way. Which probably puts most manufacturers off of trying.
     
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    I used to have a 9 shot High Standard revolver in 22mag, wish I'd kept it.
     
  23. crestoncowboy

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    The Grendel p30 was the predecessor to the pmr30. Kelgren owned both companies. I have both.
     
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  24. barnetmill

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    true, but the muzzle blast at bad breath distances in the face are not ineffective.
    1 1/8 inch barrel https://northamericanarms.com/ballistics/ball-bwm/ With two in barrel the black widow if i got it right has a bit more velocity.
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    With black widow the ballistics are much better.
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  25. Appalachiannative

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    I once seen an automatic 22 mag made by Sig I think it was called a Mosquito and the guy selling it said it was rare so I don't think it was made long. If you want a .22 mag handgun a revolver is the way to go I'd say.
     
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