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Why no safety on the Sig 226?

Discussion in 'Handguns: Autoloaders' started by bushmaster1313, Dec 9, 2012.

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  1. bushmaster1313

    bushmaster1313 Member

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    As the 226 can be carried with one in the chamber and fired with a strong double action pull, why is there no safety?
     
  2. Bovice

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    You just explained why it doesn't need one. You don't accidentally pull a 10 pound double action trigger.
     
  3. mgmorden

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    Because the strong double action pull negates a need for one. Its got a decocker, which is all that is needed.
     
  4. HDCamel

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    The same reason there's no safety on almost all double-action revolvers.
     
  5. bushmaster1313

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    Funny, I never would have thought to ask about a safety on a full size revolver, but somehow a safety on a semi-auto pistol seems to make more sense.
     
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    Well, it seems everyone has already answered this question. I never needed a safety on my 226. Just decock it and your safety is that first long hard trigger pull.
     
  7. 56hawk

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    It's an interesting question to consider since I think the SIG 220 might have been the first DA/SA pistol to not have a safety. Walther, Beretta, HK, S&W and quite a few others have and still do make DA/SA guns with safeties.
     
  8. bushmaster1313

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    Just went and tried to operate the decocker with my left index finger because I shoot left hand.
    No problem, at least with an empty chamber and magazine and no distractions.

    In fact as I had to take my finger away from the trigger area to operate the decocker, it might even be safer for a lefty than a righty.
     
  9. The Lone Haranguer

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    Once the first shot has been fired, the hammer and trigger go to the single-action (cocked) position. After each string of fire, remember to decock using the decocking lever, then it goes back to double action. Repeat as necessary. :)
     
  10. Bovice

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    +1 on that. DON'T EVER REHOLSTER UNLESS YOU DECOCK FIRST! But if you have range time with your SIG prior to using it from a holster, you should already have that concept down.
     
  11. 1KPerDay

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    Here you go...

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  12. otasan56

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    Perhaps to compete functionally with the Glock pistol, which also have no safeties (other than the trigger safety).
     
  13. rcmodel

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    Or maybe the other way around.

    The first Sauer with a decocker was the Model 38H introduced in 1938.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sauer_38H

    I beleive the Glock came along a little later.

    rc
     
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    ?

    Glock wasn't even making handguns when Sig was making guns like this.
     
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    The fact that the P226 has no safety is actually why I consider it superior to most other DA/SA service 9mms, good classic examples including the Beretta 92/M9 and the HK USP.

    Because as far as I'm concerned on any DA/SA handgun the "safety" is the long+heavy trigger pull, a manual safety simply isn't needed and may potentially be in my way *cough* Beretta *cough*... The Sig is a simpler, cleaner design that keeps the decocker out of the way unless you need it.

    But to be fair, my father started me out with his Sigs before I fell in love with 1911s. So I've always considered them to be among the best DA/SA autos out there.
     
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    That's one thing about DA/SA pistols. SAO pistols pretty much universally have safeties. DAO largely do not. SFA pistols...well most don't have safeties, some have it (some M&P models, all Shield Models, all Taurus, Ruger, and FN models available for civilian purchase). DA/SA have either a decocker, a safety, a decocker/safety lever, and a few have a lever that does decock and safe at the same time. I think there's more variability in MOA for DA/SA pistols than there is in all the others combined, personally.
     
  17. Joe_556

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    4 years and 3k posts and ask a silly question like that?
     
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    Any slide mounted safety has the potential to become engaged during a FTF, clearing or magazine change.

    But, some people need them.
     
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    While I'll agree, I've also seen people bump on a frame mounted safety while firing a 1911. Its a result of a poor grip, but I've still seen it happen.

    I'm personally a fan of leaving the safety off entirely, but when I do have one I do kinda like the slide-mounted safeties. My first gun was a Ruger P95 though, which had the slide-mounted safety, so I'm sure to a large degree its what you are used to. People who started on the 1911 seem to think that if the safety should have been on the slide then God would have told JMB to put it there :D.
     
  20. BigJimP

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    If you want a safety on the 226 -- check out the 226 X-Five series.

    http://sigsauer.com/CatalogProductList/pistols-p226-x-five.aspx

    There are 4 models in the 226 X Five line / the top end one with the wood grips (L-1 model ) has an adjustable trigger in it - where you can set it from 2.0 - 4.0 lbs...and its a nice feature. Two of the other three are also SAO ....but no adjustable trigger ....and one is DA/SA..../ they range in price from about $ 1,350 - $2,500.

    I have an L-1 model in .40S&W ....its a heavy gun / not meant for carry ...its more of a "race gun" or nice range gun ...mine is 55 oz with a full mag ( 14 + 1 rounds of .40S&W in it )...all stainless, nice wood grips, ambi safety, SAO.../ the 9mm version of the same gun is 19 + 1 rds...( same gun / just available in either caliber ).

    Its a good gun ...and if you like something a little different ...it'll suit your needs.
     
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    I dissagree. While that works for someone with healthy hands. Some people have injured their hands and can not pull a 10# trigger or a host of other double action triggers (my self included, its not due to streangth its due to loss of motion. It would be nice if some of the modern pistol offered with a decocker only were offered with a thumbsaftey so it could be carried cocked witht eh safety on.

    This fact is why I do not and will not ever own a sig. I know one lost firearm sale will not hurt the company however there are many pistols such as a Beretta 92, ruger p345 and other P series pistols ETC. I have pased on due to double action triggers.

    Which leaves me with a very limited selection of firearms to choose from in the single action manual safety category.
     
  22. 1KPerDay

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    EBK... see above posts in this thread. SIG makes several variants of the 226 in Single action. But whatever.
     
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    That sounds kind of harsh but, to be honest, I was wondering much the same thing. I don't necessarily think the op's question was "silly", per se, but certainly not well thought out, at least in my mind.
     
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    Glocks have 3 safeties including the drop safety on the Trigger.
     
  25. EBK

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    I am sorry my injury and need for a lighter than 10# DA trigger/ single action trigger offends you in some way. I was just making a comment on what is currently available on the market.

    I did not know that sigs were available with a thumb safety in single action. I have never seen such a beast when shopping for a handgun.
     
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