Why Not a M1 Garand?

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Flyin B - Is that first rifle in a new birch stock? Did you refinish it or oil it, or is that the way it came?
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ya, its a birch stock that i refinished. i got 2 with new birch and refinished one and left the other one. i saw one on milsurps forum that a guy refinished really light colored and liked it and figured since it was new birch i would try it. i figured if i didnt like it i would buy a boyds walnut but i liked the way it turned out so im leaving it. (actually i hit it with some 0000 steel wool and it got a little darker since the pics)

Wow, that was a good one!
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ya i was pretty happy with it. i epoxy bedded the action on that particular one, and sanded the ends of the forward handgaurd (mine was also a bit tight), and also did "the national match trigger adjustment" that is described (very well with excellent pictures) starting on page 137, appendix-b, in "the m1 garand complete assembly guide" by walt kuleck, and clint mckee (founder of fulton armory)....... it worked out pretty good.

the round in the pic is not a v-max. its a nosler i just put there for scale. it might be a shade over 2" but its pretty close. this was with 47g of h4895 with l.c. once fired and cci large rifle primers.
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They only hold 8 rounds of ammo, not good for zombies. I'll pass on such a horrible rifle and keep my Ruger 10/22 thank you. :D

I can't afford one at the moment and I have other guns on the list that take priority.
 
I'm not sure why people are talking about $900 Garands when the CMP is selling Field Grade Springfields and H&Rs for $595. And that is with absolutely unrivaled customer service. Any problems with your 70 year-old rifle and they'll fix it or replace it.

I have two CMP Springfield Garands, a 1942 and a 1952, to shoot now and leave to my two sons later. They are beautiful rifles, easy to reload for, unbeatable fun to shoot, and an important part of American history.

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Anyone on the fence, don't put it off. Look into the CMP.

http://www.odcmp.com/Sales/rifles.htm

Tinpig
 
I'm not sure why people are talking about $900 Garands when the CMP is selling Field Grade Springfields and H&Rs for $595. And that is with absolutely unrivaled customer service. Any problems with your 70 year-old rifle and they'll fix it or replace it.
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i know right!!!!??? its crazy.

and ya, my 2 were 595 and they almost look good enough to be in a glass case, but take um out and BOY!!! DO THEY MEAN BUSINESS!!!!
 
The M1 Garand is my absolute favorite rifle. Hard hitting, accurate, and reliable.

What's not to like about that.

Don
 
Walnut in the back is a fully restored SA with a Kreiger barrel. The front is a Winchester from CMP with a replacement birch stock. Looks better after I stripped of the "orange" and used Tung Oil.

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I have five, two in 7.62 NATO and three in .30-06, bought my first when I was teenager and plan on getting a few more if I can.
 
I have a couple of them and shoot them on a regular basis. There is nothing like firing an M1 and hearing the iconic ping. One of my best days shooting was when I brought an M1 out and there was an old man teaching his grandson how to shoot a .22. He kept looking over at the M1 on the bench so I offered to let him shoot it. I had to load if for him but he let them go as accurately as he did in 1945. Afterwards he explained that he was a silver star recipient from Okinawa. I handed him a bandolier of ammo and let him shoot all he wanted. That's just cool in my book, meeting a war hero and letting him shoot my rifle. I became a friend with that gentleman and we regularly go shooting now.

As for the people that say an M1 is too expensive, keep your eyes open as there are some deals out there. I answered a classified at selling some "old army rifles" in the local paper 2 weeks ago. The elderly lady brought out a 100% mint national match m1 and only wanted $400 for it. I explained that the rifle was worth more than she was asking and told her what to ask for it and that I couldn't afford it. She said "for your honesty, take the rifle for $400. You can't take money to the grave" So stuff does come up...
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even still has the DAS stamp on the gas cylinder
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1. How accurate are the CMP Service Grade, $500, M1?
2. Are all CMP M1 receivers forged?
3. Can Garands be modified to reliablely shoot 220 grain commercial ammo? (also curios about reloading 30-06s and 44RMs)
4. If converted to "308" does the M1 retain its reliability?
5. Is $.52 per round average cost, per 1000, the cheapest for -06?
6. What are the economical costs of mount, ring, & scope, for 440 yards?

I will get a CMP M1, sooner or later, but saving cash now as I'm wait listed on a M25 receiver LRB Arms M14SA 18.5" bbl or a SEI Ent 16" bbl...
 
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I was leaning heavily toward a Garand action when I was shopping for a semi-auto .308 (not too many other choices), but I stumbled across an FNAR.

Hard to find a M1 that guarantees 1MOA out of the box for under 1000$... It's alright, though, I'll probably end up with one eventually.

TCB
 
1. How accurate are the CMP Service Grade, $500, M1?
2. Are all CMP M1 receivers forged?
3. Can Garands be modified to reliablely shoot 220 grain commercial ammo? (also curios about reloading 30-06s and 44RMs)
4. If converted to "308" does the M1 retain its reliability?
5. Is $.52 per round average cost, per 1000, the cheapest for -06?
6. What are the economical costs of mount, ring, & scope, for 440 yards?
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OK, I am not an expert on all things Garand by any means, but here goes:

1) Not 500, 650 shipped for a service grade. Sorry to vague, but there is no telling how precise it will be. They all should shoot fairly well though. Some will shoot better than others - its just the way it goes. That said, you shouldn't be shooting a 12" group, and I'd bet most SG rifles will shoot better than most shooters can shoot them though. I know for a fact that the CMP customer service is excellent, and I wouldn't be surprised if you would get a replacement rifle if yours shot extremely poorly.

2) They are all USGI.

3) I don't have one, but to my knowledge, yes, 220 will be fine with an adjustable gas plug. It is a non-permanent change, and one that you can do yourself. They cost somewhere around $35 or so.

4) To my knowledge, yes. You may find better info on the CMP forums. What is it you are curious about? Do you have a specific question or two? A lot of guys, including myself, reload for M1s.

5) 200 rounds/$98 at the CMP now, shipping excluded. I'd guess with shipping included it would work out to about 52 or 53 cents/round.

6) Not a lot of folks do that it seems, although some do. Most guys get a replacement rear handguard for that - you can see pics of one in this thread. I want to say I've seen one for sale like pictured in that thread for about 100. If you go that route, you will need a "scout" scope. Rings and scope are on you. How much do you want to spend? FWIW, you may find that you don't need a scope, depending on what you are doing.
 
i love M1s. they reason i dont have one? because i have an M1A. they may not have the romance of the M1, but ammo is cheaper and the gun is basically an improved M1.
 
well, im not a big fan of semi's, only have a marlin 60 that i havent touched since..... over 10 years ago. a guy i shoot with loves his, maybe some day but first on the list is that newer thing.....m1a. just to make sure i have some bad weapon incase they try and restrict them.
PS- i have a lot of levers though, that count for something?
 
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Because I have no interest in used guns. I have no interest in guns with wood parts. I have no interest in the 30-06 cartridge. I have no interest in rifles that cannot readily accept optics without modification. I have no interest in semi-auto rifles that are not fed by detachable magazines.

So, no Garand for me.


I'll bet just about every shooter wants a Garand.
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I guess I'll be an exception to that. If I was given a Garand for free, I would sell it and buy a ton of 5.56 and PMAGs.



P-32, do you know you're attempting to post images from your local hard drive? That's impossible(unless you're running a server, which I doubt). You need to upload them to a site like Imageshack and use the link from that site.
 
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I love the three that I have. I went through boot camp, and infantry training with one. We changed over to the M-14 later and they were nothing but problems. The flash supressors would bend with field use and problems with the receiver cracking. The receiver problem was solved, but we still had problems with the flash supressors. When we went the range the armorers would have a box of flash supressors and would guage ours before we fired and most needed changed.
In 1967 we changed over to the M-16 and this is the rifle I went to Vietnam with.
I would use the M-1 as my main battle rifle any day over the other two. The 8rd. clip is a non issue as far as I am concerned. There were no complaints with it from WW2 on with it. The 30-06 is a much better round than the 5.56mm. any day.
 
There was a kid (18-21 years) at the range a few months ago w/ a AR-15 that had all the bells and whistles. Eotech sight, magnifier, full rail etc. (not bashing, I have one just like it) and was explaining how cool it was to his Dad who was maybe mid 50's.

I pulled out my 1943 Winchester Garand and fired 8 rounds at a target 100 yards away. They were shooting at 50. When I finished, his Dad said real loud so his son was sure to hear it, "now that's how a rifle should sound"! :)

All of them have a place, just don't understand how someone can't appreciate a Garand?
 
The M-1 is THE classic US battle rifle and this (IMHO) didn't change with the introduction of the M14(M1A). I trained with the M-1 and then served with the M14. Seems to me that the Army just tried to combine the M-1 and BAR, which didn't fare too well. The M14 just isn't heavy enough to support the recoil and aimed fire in auto like the BAR was; even with the lesser 7.62NATO round.

I don't want to belittle the the M1A though, it's a great rifle too, but really isn't much different from the M-1 except in magazine capacity. Accuracy between them is a toss up. Gotta luv the PING of the M-1 though.!!
 
I explained that the rifle was worth more than she was asking and told her what to ask for it and that I couldn't afford it. She said "for your honesty, take the rifle for $400.
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Much respect for your honesty and integrity. Most folks would have tried to get it for less.
 
Not true. $30 spent on an adjustable gas plug + 1 screwdriver + One trip to the range = Shooting any .30-06 ammo you want in your Garand.

I asked the older Garand guys in my club about that gas plug, and even a ported one that I read about, but they all told me they would be afraid to try it. Now granted, these guys been doing the same thing for so long, they just might not be inclined to change, BUT... I would like to know more about these plugs, and how many people on here know about them and have been using them, long enough to say with certainty, that it's O.K. to shoot any on the shelf 30-06 ammo without doing your rifle or parts of your rifle in.
I too grow weak in the wallet trying to buy up good AMA90, or HXP greek, and still feel skiddish about using some of it, after reading about other brands of surplus ammo blowing up on somebody at the range. It's almost darned if you do, and darned if you don't. Please, elaborate on the "GAS PLUG" so I can get some feel for it's success...
 
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