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Discussion in 'General Gun Discussions' started by wizmar, Dec 23, 2004.

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  1. wizmar

    wizmar Member

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    Why would anyone Want to carry OPEN, for What reason?
    (1) Does it make you feel like a Tuff Guy...(2) Do you think it makes you more Secure?...(3) Your in the Open and Open to anyone that wants you, they already know you are Armed so there is No suprise? (4) No offense but it makes you look like something out of a Goof Movie.

    Those of Us that are trying to get Politics on our side to Change Laws for the better and Allow us to carry Concealed are being Joked Off by Carry open, there is No reason to do this. So if you want to Carry, Put it under something on your Person, you Know it Just may save your LIFE.
     
  2. Valkman

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    If you don't have a CCW then open carry is your only option, if it's legal where you live. If you cover it up then you're illegal because it's concealed - that's why it's called Open Carry. :)
     
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    Nuff Said
     
  4. mustanger98

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    Some handguns some of us like to shoot and carry, for a variety of reasons aside from the defensive, are too big to easily conceal. If we have legal Open Carry, we don't have to worry about trying to conceal the nearly unconcealable. Plus, and I say this as one who builds his own gunleather, a good holster is a work of art and why would anybody want to conceal that.

    That is one idiotic question. Does CCW make you feel any tougher because a BG may attack you and enable you to legally blow him away?

    What makes one secure is not a weapon, but rather situational awareness. A weapon, concealed or not, is no substitute for situational awareness.

    If a lot more people carried, open or concealed, the crooks would be on a lot more notice than they are. 1- more people are packing, and 2- just because somebody does or don't have one visible don't mean they don't have one.

    In Georgia, we can legally carry a sidearm as long as it's in a holster. The way the law reads, that may or may not be concealed by a coat as long as it's in a holster.

    Looks to me like somebody needs to get a grip on the difference between Hollywierd and reality.

    The key word here is "politics" and if you feel "joked off" by open carry, you must not believe the 2A means what it says about "shall not be infringed".
     
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    The search button is your friend ;) .
     
  6. geekWithA.45

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    Although controversial, I support open carry as a matter of principle.

    Sometimes you simply need to excercise your rights, as an assertion that you have them.

    The degree to which it is controversial in any given area is a direct measurement of the amount of political and social work that needs to be done to secure the social acceptability of being armed.
     
  7. wizmar

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    The way Liberals Look at it.

    The Point I was making was--This is the way Liberals Look at it, I know there are time when you carry Open, but the Liberals do not think walking Down Main street is the way to do it and they will keep on fighting the CCW law.
    So do not get MAD, Vote for a Politician that beleives in CCW and Open carry, the Way to change a Bad law is to change a Bad Politician?
     
  8. R.H. Lee

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    Apparently, 'wizmar' is not a proponent of open carry. I find his argument uncompelling however. :rolleyes:
     
  9. spacemanspiff

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    yeah, i tend not to pay much attention to the opinions of liberals.

    lessee, liberals sue tobacco companies when they willingly smoke their cigarrettes and get sick.
    liberals sue fast food companies when they eat their fast food and get sick.
    liberals sue gun manufacturers when criminals use them to injure/kill others.
    liberals sue to remove anything related to religion out of the public eye.
    liberals sue to force everyone to accept/embrace their lack of morality.

    to me, the simple fact that it irritates liberals is enough reason to open carry. too bad i live in a state where even our most leftist liberals are gunowners that are okay with open/concealed carry.
     
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    Thank you for putting it politely, RileyMc. I was tempted to leave the High Road. :banghead:
     
  11. TallPine

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    When the grizzly bears see my .45, they immediately turn and run away :neener:

    Seriously, if you come on my land and don't like the revolver on my hip, then you are welcome to leave.
     
  12. geekWithA.45

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    If you come to my land and DON'T have a gun on your hip, you are EXPECTED to leave, presumably to go get one, which should at minimum be in your trunk.

    The guests in my house are expected to help me defend it, and that's not doable unless they are properly armed.

    :neener: :neener: :neener:
     
  13. Ian

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    I like open carry, because it makes me feel powerful, like Rambo or John Wayne. When I open carry, everybody knows that the I-dawg don't take nuthin' from nobody, and if they try something they'll get a face full of Mr Point-Five-Oh Deagle!

    Oops, did I say that out loud? :p I think what I meant is:

    - Open carry is more comfortable than concealed.
    - Open carry allows a significantly faster draw than concealed.
    - Open carry deters criminals from acting, rather than merely allowing you to repond with force (an ounce of prevention, and all that).
    - Open carry might help condition people to seeing guns in day-to-day life.
    - Out in the boonies, nobody cares anyway.
     
  14. Standing Wolf

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    I carry openly about a quarter or a third of the time for several reasons:

    1. I have a perfectly legitimate, perfectly legal right to do so, and I believe rights, like I.Q. points and muscles, benefit from regular, frequent exercise.

    2. It's much easier to carry more gun in a hip holster than try to conceal it. I can conceal a four-inch Colt Python reasonably well; I can carry a three-inch pre-agreement Smith & Wesson model 629 in a hip holster with much less stress to my lower back.

    3. I believe America would be a saner, more polite nation if millions upon millions of us saw law-abiding citizens keeping and bearing arms openly, legally, and safely.

    That saidâ„¢, I've to confess that to date, the only people who've noticed my carrying openly are the fellows I shoot bullseye with two evenings a week.
     
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    To Wizmar

    Dude, it's just a tool.


    Get over it.
     
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    Oregon supports both concealed and open carry!

    Obviously, you must make some good choices when you opt to carry open. Carrying in a metropolitan area probably would not be a really good choice. But I have carried open in rural eastern Oregon which is "cowboy country" to say the least. People's reaction to me was disconcerting to say the least. So much so that I stopped doing it. So, while I have no problem with open carry per se my own experience says that it makes a lot of people nervous and why would I want to do that? My answer it that I don't just to make a point. FWIW.
     
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    I've always wondered why some folks think it's ok to say offensive or insulting things if they simply precede their statement with the words 'no offense, but...'


    :rolleyes:
     
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    My GWH won't hide my rifle?

    My GWH doesn't really hide enough gun for hunting - game that is.

    There are certainly places I feel diffident about open carry. I'd rather not go there. I do wear a shoot me first vest but that's just for the pockets.

    Even in Michigan I'd expect some difference between the upper and lower peninsula? Why should anybody worry his head about what I might or might not do on family land where we try to be what America was? The family still has a piece of furniture that took a bullet during Quantrill's raid on Lawrence - next time we'll be better prepared.
     
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    I don't generally carry openly except at "gun" functions, but at the same time, I'd rather not end up with a Texas-type situation where I've got to be absolutely paranoid about keeping it concealed at all times. I don't mind others doing it; they'll get a second-glance, but that's me just checking out their sidearm. It IS a conversation-starter :)

    What I do care about is that the right to do so still exists, whether or not I choose to excercise it.
     
  20. wizmar

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    Gentlemen--Ladies

    Do Not get Mad at me, I am 100% for the 2nd Amendment, I believe in a CCW and Open Carry because that is our Rights, I am just saying that the Liberals want to take this away and sometimes where you carry your weapon can give them a excuse to further try and hold up our right to carry. A person in a Rural area would not draw attention to a Gun as one walking down a Main street, its just common sense where you carry, and this is where attorneys watch when you pull the Trigger. Thats why Liberals will never Win the Fight, they have No common sense, to them everybody that breaks the Law is a (Child of Love).
     
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    I never carry open here in MA, though there is no law against it. I don't just because of the hassle involved in this state. Open carry is, however, much easier. Having to conceal is difficult sometimes.

    -James
    Plus, it makes me feel like a Tuff guy in a Goof Movie. ;)
     
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    I open carry because i can,i don't feel a need to get a permission slip from the local or state goverment to carry concealed.In almost 13 years carrying in the open in phoenix i've heard only 3 comments about my gun.If you don't like open carry,then don't do it.
     
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    Wizmar;

    There are those of us, who upon occasion, take a walk. Now, I know that this is going to be hard for you to understand, but bear with me. We don't do it on pavement.

    Since we don't take our walks on pavement, we recognize that the mugger we meet may be politically incorrect & will wear fur. And worse than that, said mugger may not want our wallet, but our gullet. As these muggers are of rather low IQ, or at the very least, non-college-grads, they don't recognize weapons. Very politically correct in that, but beside the point.

    Trying to conceal a Freedom Arms .454 is not impossible I suppose, but not worth the bother. Besides the concealment could slow one's access to said .454; the muggers generally conceded to have better reaction times than us poor tool user's.

    Or, to put it another way, I know for a stone fact that free range grizzly bears have bad breath. Look where Tall Pine & I are from.

    900F
     
  24. Ryder

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    The idea of freedom is that you don't need the approval or permission of others Wizmar. Least of all those without common sense. Your car can be a more deadly weapon than a pistol. If the sight of it scares somebody that is their problem, not yours.

    I've carried openly in public without negative feedback. I did it because I had to by law. I don't do it anymore because I don't have to. If others want to do it for whatever reason it's nobody's business to say otherwise as far as I can figure.
     
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    People who tip-toe around in fear of provoking the leftist extremists—as if that bunch of parasites ever needed excuses to wreak havoc with the nation's civil rights!—don't still have their civil rights. The most wretched slave is the one who enforces his own bondage.
     
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