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bubbaturbo, my post was directed at those stating that printing was illegal in this state or that state, while having no actual knowledge whether it was true or not. Since you never made that statement, I'm curious what about my post you thought was directed at you.
 
bubbaturbo, my post was directed at those stating that printing was illegal in this state or that state, while having no actual knowledge whether it was true or not. Since you never made that statement, I'm curious what about my post you thought was directed at you.
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Regardless of where your post was directed, I have an issue with somebody on The High Road discussion forum telling others to shut up.
 
Some states require the gun to be completely concealed. TX and FL come to mind.
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I have had a CHL for over 10 years in Texas, and this is not entirely accurate. You can have your CHL suspended for failure to conceal, but the standard is fairly lax. You need only conceal the weapon from casual observation.

Detection by LE is not casual observation. I regularly pocket carry a G27 in a pocket holster, it prints. I occassionally carry a 5" 1911 in an OWB pancake under an un-tucked shirt, and again, it would be easily detected by someone paying attention.

Here's the thing, though. NO ONE IS PAYING ATTENTION. I have literally carried REAL GUNS nearly EVERY DAY for the last 10-12+ years, and never had a question raised.

Make a reasonable effort to abide by the "law" to avoid hassel, and put your right into practice by proudly carrying. No one is watching.
 
bubbaturbo, my post was directed at those stating that printing was illegal in this state or that state, while having no actual knowledge whether it was true or not. Since you never made that statement, I'm curious what about my post you thought was directed at you.
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Refer to post 44
 
Refer to post 44
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That's cool. I couldn't care less about NM's laws at the moment as I have no plans to be there in the immediate future. If, however, I do visit, forgive me if I look up the law for myself instead of trusting random THR Member #13542, as I don't see any official cites in your post either.
Oh, and NMAC 10.8.2 doesn't say anything about printing. Care to tell me what makes printing illegal in NM?
 
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Care to tell me what makes printing illegal in NM?
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What do you care you already said you have no plans to visit.
I couldn't care less about NM's laws at the moment as I have no plans to be there in the immediate future.
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I don't see any official cites in your post either
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And for the city why don't you look under my name. Why are you acting like a child?
 
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Who said anything about the city? I thought we were talking about the state? I wouldn't have known you were in NM if it weren't for the city...
I live in an open carry State. However you can CC places you cannot open carry to. Also it is illegal to print even if you are in an area that is ok to open carry.
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Acting like a child is getting all huffy when someone questions your statements when you have no sources. I just get tired of people throwing this "Open Carry is illegal in Washington State" "Printing is illegal in Texas and Florida" etc. over and over with no legal basis for their statements.

I don't personally care about New Mexico's laws, but there are others on this board who might, and I'd hate for them to get incorrect information. I'm not saying your information was incorrect, I'm just saying that it's unverified and you don't seem to have any interest in verifying it, which makes me question why not.

I did find this:

NMS 29-19-2 D. "concealed handgun" means a loaded handgun that is not visible to the ordinary observations of a reasonable person;

However, http://www.dps.nm.org/lawEnforcement/ccw/ccwFaq.php states that Open Carry is legal. Therefore, while "concealed" according to the above definition means that a license would be required, it does not make printing illegal.

Again, I'm not saying you're wrong, just that I can't verify whether you're right or not.
 
Here you go from the New Mexico Conceal Carry Act of 2003 Chapter 29 Article 19 Paragraph 29-19-2 Line D
D. “concealed handgun” means a loaded handgun that is not visible to the ordinary observations of a reasonable person;
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And I must say I am not a New Mexico Native I am currently stationed here in Albuquerque and I am quite glad cause of the freedoms New Mexico offers.
 
states that Open Carry is legal. Therefore, while "concealed" according to the above definition means that a license would be required, it does not make printing illegal.
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Open carry is not legal in places that sell alcohol for off premise consumption such as a grocery store or Wal Mart.
(4) by a person carrying a concealed handgun
who is in possession of a valid concealed handgun license for
that gun pursuant to the Concealed Handgun Carry Act; provided
that the licensed establishment does not sell alcoholic
beverages for consumption on the premises;
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From Change to NMSA 30-7-3
 
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Also it is illegal to print even if you are in an area that is ok to open carry.
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Huh?!? That makes absolutely no sense whatsoever. Maybe it would make sense to me if anyone could provide the actual statute that backs this statement up.
 
I will admit I am wrong on that NavyLT please forgive me I was going off what my CC instructor had taught me without looking up the statute myself.
 
Edit... Nevermind, looks like we figured that one out.
Nothing personal against you, Mags, this sort of thing is so common, and Law Enforcement and CCW Instructors are the #1 source of disinformation about printing and open carry. That's why I always ask for or look for actual cites to back it up with those two subjects in particular.
 
Um yeah... you did notice that I posted that exact cite, right?
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Looks like we are typing at the same time.
Also it is illegal to print even if you are in an area that is ok to open carry.
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I already admitted to being wrong on that one just before your posts.
 
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Edit... Nevermind, looks like we figured that one out.
Nothing personal against you, Mags, this sort of thing is so common, and Law Enforcement and CCW Instructors are the #1 source of disinformation about printing and open carry. That's why I always ask for or look for actual cites to back it up with those two subjects in particular.
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I was just going to say the same thing and you beat me to it! Die hard CC'ers will say anything to attempt to dissuade someone from open carrying.
 
CT is considered a shall issue, concealed carry state. I reality if you have a "State Permit to Carry Pistols and Revolvers" I don't think there is any law saying you must carry concealed except the following:

"CARRYING
A permit to carry a pistol or revolver is required to
carry a handgun on or about one’s person, either openly
or concealed, or in a vehicle. However, the Connecticut
Board of Firearms Permit Examiners (which reviews
denials and revocations of permits) cautions that “every
effort should be made to ensure that no gun is exposed
to view or carried in a manner that would tend to alarm
people who see it.”

So pretty much you risk being arrested for "alarming the public".

I wonder how many other states are really open carry states but have these stupid clauses?

http://www.nraila.org/statelawpdfs/CTSL.pdf
 
After you have dinner with over 100 openly armed individuals, you just don't buy into the 'someone seeing your gun is bad' argument anymore.
 
Michigan is an open carry state no licence required.*

I live in an open carry state. Other than certain areas/situations, I really don't care if my weapon is exposed.




* See Michigan laws for exceptions and age requirements

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