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Why the hate on the XD's?

Discussion in 'Handguns: Autoloaders' started by southeastshooter, Dec 2, 2010.

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  1. southeastshooter

    southeastshooter Member

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    Hey everybody I just turned 21 last Friday :) So naturally I have been deciding on a handgun, well actually for the past year. After very extensive research, shooting etc. I had it narrowed down to the Glock 30, XD 45 compact and the M&P 45 compact. So I decided to go with the XD for various reasons and was planning on ordering it next week. Tonight while doing a little looking around I stumbled across m4carbine.net where there is much hate for the XD line. I am not one to go on a few opinions but they really make me second guess my choice. Is the XD really a bad weapon? I'm not saying at all that it is better than a Glock or M&P but in my opinion it is on par with those models. What do yall think?
     
  2. PT1911

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    it is a great weapon that is capable of doing anything that the others can do.. if it feels good in your hand and you prefer it to the others you will definitely not regret the decision to get it.. there are haters for every design out there, but when you get right down to it, any of those options will serve you well for the remainder of your life and continue to serves someone else afterward as long as it is properly maintained.
     
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    You really can't go wrong with any of the selections. And certainly, none of them are "bad". Don't listen to the internet haters. Must opine on guns they have never even held, let alone shot.

    The one thing I have learned from the Internet forums and my own experience is this; try it out for yourself. If YOU shoot it well and performs reliably, then pick the one that fits you best.

    You should be able to find a range that offers all those models for rent. Try before you buy!
     
  5. BlayGlock

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    Because its not a glock.
     
  6. southeastshooter

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    I agree and thanks for the fast responses. That was seriously quick! It's just that this is the only handgun money permits for me to buy for a long time and I will be carrying for self defense and don't want to buy something that will let me down if I even need it.
     
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    They need to make it more XXXXXTREME :fire:

    HS produkts, I mean.
     
  9. Mr.Davis

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    Many of the real and imagined "pros" around the internet have red marks on their lips from all the Glock Kool-Aid. A lot of them struggle with the distinction between "preference" and "true superiority". The XD versus Glock debate is a perfect example of preference.

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    I love my XD. It is more accurate than me, it is safer than a Glock (although both are very safe), I like the grip angle better, and it has never, EVER choked through 2000+ rounds. That said, I'd never demean someone for buying a Glock - they're good guns too.

    People can criticize my guns when they start paying for them.
     
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    The odds are you won't regret it but if you do you won't lose your money or at least not very much of it. Not much to hate there.
     
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    What makes you prefer the XD over the Glock or M&P?
     
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    I would go with glock or s&w. I dislike the xd's and i have owned one and Prefered my glock.
     
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    I prefer the grip angle of the XD, the grip safety of the XD, the method of take down (lever versus switch), the XD factory sights, front slide serrations, and the XD's trigger (true single action). I also got my XD used, for a heck of a great price; far better than any Glock at the time.

    Note I have a plain-Jane XD, not an XDm. I really like the XDm's capacity, backstraps, and trigger. But those are moot since they were unavailable when I purchased my pistol.

    I do prefer Glock's Tennifer over the XDs, lower bore axis, RTF finish (particularly on the Gen 3 RTF pistols that others found too rough), and size of the baby (26/27/33) Glocks.

    All in all, the XD wins out for me. But I still have much respect for its competition.
     
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    Love My XD

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    The author ain't a lover. He calls it what it is...serviceable, with flaws.
     
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    IMHO it is a copy of a glock. I shoot a G26, and a glock is the original. A XD is just like a glock, Just occasionaly with a silver slide.
     
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    There's absolutely nothing wrong with the XD series of pistols. I am still trying to wrap my head around the fact that there is a bunch of hate out there for them.

    They've been proven, their cost is decent, and they offer some advantages over the S&W line of M&P lines especially with the XD45 having 3 more rounds than the M&P line 45s.

    If you like how one sits in your hand, I recommend picking one up.
     
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    What didn't you like? It may be helpful to the OP to know that.
     
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    I own 2 XD's (45c and 9mm subcompact). I have shot 4 different glocks both in full size and compact. I have also shot two S&W M&P's, one full size the other one compact.

    I would buy the M&P.

    The XD trigger is atrocious on both of my guns as well as on both of my brother's XD-45c's as well as on my sister's XD-45c. The XD trigger is considered 'single action' but it has a massive spring force stacking effect going on which makes it difficult to shoot accurately. It is okay for duty use, I suppose.

    XD Trigger stack:
    1) depress trigger safety spring
    2) depress trigger spring
    3) depress firing pin block safety spring
    4) depress sear spring
    5) extend (slightly) the firing pin spring as the sear moves

    In total you are depressing 5 different springs that all kick in at different point in the trigger pull. This makes the XD trigger pull rather difficult to operate smoothly.

    In retrospect I think my siblings and I all wished we had bought a different gun. My preference is the M&P.

    YMMV
     
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    I FAR prefer the feel of the XD...

    However, the failures I have seen have made me (when I translated to 'fantastic plastic' from my 1911's) go to the Glocks (Owned an XD first)

    Mags... not reliable when they get dirty.

    Guns... lock up.

    Not trusting it.
     
  22. Mike J

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    I have an XD-40 that is an accurate, reliable pistol. I have shot a couple of Glocks & liked the way they shot & handled also. The biggest advantage I see to the Glocks is that parts & accessories are widely available. Find what works for you & go with it.

    The biggest thing that made me pick the XD over the Glock was I wanted a .40. Glocks chambers did not appear to be as well supported at that time as the XD's(this was in late 2007). Glock has since given their .40 caliber chambers more support.
     
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    for me it was a price and beauty thing
    I liked the long slide (tactical??) version, and in 40, at the time, wow, more than few years ago, it was there, felt better, and to me looked better...
    so thats what I ended up with, and that it was cheaper (rebate offer and just less expensive) it's what I got.
     
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    Few thousand rounds through my XDm 9, and not a single problem. Can't find a single thing not to like about it.

    I was originally going to get the XD 9, but found that the grips on the XDm felt a thousand times better in my hand. That alone made it worth the extra money (I don't really care about the other perks of the xdm over the xd, though).

    Glock and M&Ps are fine firearms too. Personally I don't like the grip angle of the glock, but i can't find any other real flaws in either of them.

    In short: Of those three, you can't go wrong. Go with your gut feeling. Whichever feels right in your hand, is compatible with your wallet, and makes you smile. :)
     
  25. FatPants

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    I prefer the glock. I had an XD 9, and while it was very accurate, it was not as reliable as my glocks.

    I do not like the fact that I cannot buy parts for an XD. Everything must be sent back to SA to be repaired, which is a hassle, when I can buy just about anything for the glock online, and have it delivered to my door (most fun shops stock glock parts as well). Not a big deal for most people, but I am a competition shooter, and being without my gun for a month or more is not acceptable.

    The XD ergonomics certainly feel better than a glock, but in my experience, a handgun grip isnt like a bicycle grip where I will be holding it for long periods of time. It comes out of the holster for a minute or two, then its back in the holster, so if my pinky isnt 100% comfortable, its not a big deal as long as I can shoot the gun accurately, and acquire targets quickly. Glocks do point very natural for me, I know a lot of people complain about the grip angle, but for me, it is spot on.

    I personally am back on target quicker with the glock, and my scores have improved since making the switch. XD's are fine guns, but not for me. I see a lot more XD failures at matches than I do glocks as well.
     
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