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Why would someone do this to a CZ-75

Discussion in 'Handguns: Autoloaders' started by jmace57, Jan 20, 2013.

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  1. Walt Sherrill

    Walt Sherrill Member

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    There's a lot of "mystique" associated with the pre-B CZ-75s, but the "better triggers" found in those guns are arguably due to the facts that the vast majority of them 1) are used and well broken in, and 2) don't have the horrible "camming" double-action trigger that the CZ legal department apparently dictated for more recent B models. (I say that, because I can't imagine why anyone but a Legal Department wonk would do THAT to a gun on purpose.)

    With only a modest amount of gunsmith work, the "B" trigger can be as good as the pre-B trigger. And, if you convert a DA/SA B model to SAO mode, and install the two-way adjustable flat trigger, the SA trigger can be better than the best pre-Bs, whether you leave the firing pin block in, or take it out!

    I've had a bunch of CZs over the years, both "B" and pre-"B" models, and I just won't buy a pre-B any more unless I can get it at a very low price (for later resale). I would like to have another CZ-40B, however (or maybe a Colt Z40), to fill the void left by the CZ-40B I let get away a few years after they were introduced. (I didn't like the .40 round, back then, but I've since learned to like it a bit better.)


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  2. jdh

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    I happen to prefer the smooth rounded top of the pre B slide to the ribbed B slide. Also the spur hammer instead of the B's holey one.
     
  3. ku4hx

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    It's a new method of gun identification: sonic. Each series of holes will have a unique pattern and each "voice" will be too at a predetermined frequency as air blows over them. The system is being marketed by the anti gunners as stealth ID.

    That or they're mounting holes for a Ghost sight frame.
     
  4. Pilot

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    I also prefer the rounded trigger guard, and the spur hammer of the Pre-B CZ-75's. However, I like the newer pistols better, however, the "Retro" model that came out a while back was a slam dunk and I should have bought one although I already had/have a 75B.
     
  5. meanmrmustard

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    I have the Cold War model, has the squared trigger guard I like, but has the spur hammer too.

    Great gun.
     
  6. Walt Sherrill

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    I, too, loved the RETRO model -- the style of the 75 with the improvements of the 75B.

    I cared a bit less for the "Red Star" Cold War model, particularly when you consider that none of the Communist Bloc militaries used the 75 (except, perhaps a Spetsnaz unit or two) -- the 9mm round wasn't used in the Communist Bloc!
     
  7. Jim NE

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    Moths maybe? I've lost some great wool sweaters that way :(
     
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    Mynocks.
     
  9. Fire_Moose

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    My thoughts exactly....and a poly coated one at that.

    useless signiture
     
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    Got shot with those mythical 5.7 armor piercing rounds.:p
     
  11. meanmrmustard

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    We've been down this road before.

    The gun celebrates the 20th anniversary of the Unions fall, something the Czechs celebrate.

    The "Red Star" is just another B model.
     
  12. Blackstone

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    So heartbreaking to see
     
  13. Walt Sherrill

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    Right.

    The red star was first used as a symbol for the Communists during the Russian Revolution and it later became the symbol of the Soviet Army. Stalin wore the red star as a piece of costume jewelry on his tynic, and it was later incorporated into other Soviet military decorations. The red star supposedly represented the four fingers and thumb of the "workers" hand, and the Soviets pushed it's use onto others in the Sino-Soviet Bloc, and it was eventually adapted as the symbol of international communism. The Chinese Communists still use it.

    Giving the red star symbol a position of prominence on a handgun is hardly a way to celebrate the demise of it's significance as a symbol. It may have meant something to the Czechs, but I'd argue that it was a dumb marketing move by CZ that was misinterpreted by potential buyers elsewhere in the world.

    I didn't see many people jumping on those models until the prices were discounted -- and they were. Buying one at the discounted price and painting over the red star would be a very rational act. (A few folks bought them because they thought their relative rarity would increase their value over time. Good luck to them.)

    I'd pay a slight premium for a retro model.

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  14. Fire_Moose

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    I'd love to get one of those red.star/sickle 75s.

    useless signiture
     
  15. Walt Sherrill

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    Except for the spur hammer (which "bites" some hands), and the Red Star (there is no sickle or hammer) and Cyrillic lettering, it's a standard "B" model.
     
  16. Jim NE

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    You know, there is another side to the types of guns like the one that the OP has shown us. They're often an opportunity for someone who can't afford a new CZ (or a good condition used example) to buy one at a very low price. As long as the "bad idea" mod doesn't affect function, why not pay a couple hundred bucks for it?
     
  17. Walt Sherrill

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    I suspect, too, that if the prior owner went to the trouble of mounting an IPSC-type sight, he probably did some work internally -- and the gun most likely has a very nice trigger. I wouldn't let the "holes" dissuade me, if I were looking for a good shooting gun.

    The original owner probably moved up in the gun world...
     
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    Those are sand cuts.
     
  19. tuj

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    eh, I did the same thing to a Les Baer.

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  20. Fire_Moose

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    What's that above the grip?

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    useless signiture
     
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    That can't be a price tag??!?? For 89 bucks, I would buy that in a second if the barrel didn't have gopher holes in it.
     
  22. Walt Sherrill

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    My oversight. <Grin> I've only seen them in pictures, and only the left side. My error!

    I'd have to paint over THAT, too. (Matte black Dupli-Color auto touch up paint is an almost-perfect match.)
     
  23. Walt Sherrill

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    Wow! What grips! It is a fire hazard?
     
  24. jmace57

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    Yeah - I was wondering if the was Tuj's carry gun!
     
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    A new breed of steel-eating moths. I lost a great steel-wool sweater that way :(
     
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