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Discussion in 'Handloading and Reloading' started by griz, Apr 10, 2006.

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  1. griz

    griz Member

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    Are there any gaps in the current long list of available cartridges? It seems to me we have everything covered from almost airgun power to elephant guns. Maybe somebody needs a round to function in a specific action, such as a rimmed version of an existing round for a single shot?

    Or maybe one of you has an idea for something actually unique. Let's hear it.
     
  2. The Bushmaster

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    What's the matter Griz? Running out of something to do? Gettin' bored??? Pickin' on the wife can get you some excitment...:D
     
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    Yeah... something in between 12.7mm and 20mm...

    Unfortunately, thanks to FDR, we have the stupid NFA34.
     
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    i've been trying to come up w/ a cartridge that will fit and function in the m1 carbine. the working pressure of the 30 carbine round makes it difficult.

    dimensionally, the 221 fireball is a good fit. pressure-wise, the 218 bee is a good fit - but the rim and uselesness of the cartridge aren't appealing (reason i want to re-barrel is make the carbine into something useful)...

    a 22 or even 6mm carbine would raise pressures too high... i'm still at the drawing board...
     
  5. R.W.Dale

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    You've already been beaten to the punch.

    .256 Winchester Magnum was chambered in some of the universal carbines. Also a .22 caliber was tried named either 5.7mm Johnson or 22 Spitfire.

    LOL On another wildcat forum an old timer was commenting on designing a .25 caliber cartrige based on 7x57:rolleyes: kinda busted his bubble when someone pointed out that he had just reinvented 257 roberts
     
  6. griz

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    Well yea, a little bit.:eek:
    I was thinking of something along the lines of a "practical" wildcat. The best example I can think of was one John Wotters came up with. He wanted a small 25 caliber that would do well with cast bullets. Something like the 256 just mentioned, but he wanted it to work in a small bolt action. So he necked up the 222 case and it was just what he wanted for turkey and other small to medium game.

    So here I am, so bored I am trying to think up something I actually need to get!:D
     
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    wasn't trying to come up w/ something new... unless you are designing your own brass there isn't much new to be had... already looked into necking down to 22, but pressures wouldn't work - thus trying to figure out how to get 218 bee pressure w/o the rim, and w/ easily available brass...

    the 256 doesn't do anything for me... (the reason i want to re-chamber what i have... if i wanted a useless cartridge, i'd just keep it in 30 carbine)... anyway, when i find happiness, i'll put pics of my butchered carbine up...
     
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    Well. the .45WM has been done already how bout a Mini-14 with a .44 cal wildcat based on the 7.62 X 39?
     
  9. Any Cal.

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    The holes in the line-up are in the big end. There are only a few .338's and only a couple .375's. These are also stompers that are overkill for most everything, as well as being chambered only in big, heavy guns. The 375.06 and the 338.06 are appealing, but I keep wondering about a .338.08 or maybe a .375/.300WMx2. I am not sure about the nomenclature on the second, but a shortened case. These would give a big bore in a shorter action, lighter gun, tough bullets, but without the huge casehead of the WSM. Something like 275g at 2200 in a short action would be a neat guide gun. If a guy started with a Savage, he could probably order all the parts he needed except the barrel. Similiar to the .376 steyr, but trading velocity for the shorter action.
     
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    I've got a .357 Herrett in a 10" Contender. Rifle performance from a 10" barrel. Hunting and silhouette. Maybe 2-3 times the power of a full house .357 from about the same size package. This round was designed specifically for this application

    note: use ear protection. OK, use double ear protection
     
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    dakotasin,

    Seems to me, a .30 Carbine in .243 caliber would have some appeal. What about necking up the .221 Fireball?

    Don
     
  12. griz

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    I've yet to see one, but I understand the new 338 Federal is a necked up 308.
     
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