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Will polymer ever end up in mainstream 1911?

Discussion in 'Handguns: Autoloaders' started by KBintheSLC, Aug 24, 2010.

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  1. KBintheSLC

    KBintheSLC Member

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    It has taken the industry by storm... pistols, revolvers, rifle (parts), etc. Now that the 1911 is a century old, will polymer frames step in as the next phase of it's evolution?

    Traditionalists... flame on.:D
     
  2. gofastman

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    one can only hope!

    the XD is getting kind of close isnt it?
     
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    They are out there, if your definition of "1911" is loose enough.
    STI and Bul are the two that come to mind first.
     
  5. The Lone Haranguer

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    A 1911-like pistol can - and has - certainly be produced in a polymer frame, but to duplicate the original design frame exactly in polymer is not feasible, IMO. The large cutout for the slide stop would make a poly too weak.
     
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  6. highorder

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    I had a chance to put 300 rounds through an old Kimber polymer 5" 1911. The grip texture was nice, the grip comfortable, and the weight manageable. Had it been cheaper, I would have bought it.
     
  7. Demitrios

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    So Wilson is selling a poly framed 1911 for almost $2,000? I thought one of the ideas behind polymer handguns was to make them more affordable.
     
  8. Zak Smith

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    SV/STI double-stack "2011" pistols dominate USPSA Limited and Open divisions.
     
  9. HOOfan_1

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    Taking a page out of Heckler and Koch's book. Where they price the similar polymer USP and P30 the same as the all metal P226
     
  10. ForumSurfer

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    I have a friend who owns a Kimber that I shot several times. It's a double-stack, polymer 1911-ish-thing-a-ma-bobber. Shoots great. He's offered it to me at some decent prices, but I just don't care for it.

    Not many people ever seem to show much interest in polymer 1911-ish designs.

    I like the Kimber and the Wilson mentioned above, but for the money I'd rather have an alloy or steel bob-tailed commander for carry. Double stack polymer 1911's are too thick and heavy for me to carry. I tried. I'll stick with single stack alloy or my glock for carry.
     
  11. Zak Smith

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    An STI grip is not really wider than a regular 1911 with standard grips at its widest point.
     
  12. Jim Watson

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    Much blockier, though.
    Sorry I don't have mine at hand to measure circumference.
     
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    HK pistols are no more expensive than any other quality pistol on the market. In fact they are less expensive than quite a few out there. Polymer doesn't mean cheap. It does add up to a large savings in weight when carrying.
     
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    Good description.
     
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    I do, a stock colt is 5.25" an STI 2011 is 5.625".
     
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    Smith and Wesson offers the M&P 45 with a 1911 style safety lever. Not exactly a 1911, but pretty close in practice.
     
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    Been around quite a while. Check out BUL M5 (aka Government Model). Personally, I like it better than the wide-body SS Para and parked steel SA models. Parts are understandably non-standard with a ramped bull barrel. The ramped feature was necessary, the bull was not.

    BTW, aside from BUL and Wilson, Kimber also brought out a poly frame "1911". Quotes for those who would otherwise protest the nomenclature. Don't bother.

    MR2
     
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    Someone has to cover the cost of the injection dies.
     
  19. KBintheSLC

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    That's not the issue though. There are some slim pickings out there. The question is will it ever take over as it did in other platforms? Maybe the fact that it has been around for a while, and still has not caught on answers that question.
     
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    As noted above they have in competition shooting. The only reason SVI went away from “plastic” is they didn’t get the equipment when “the split” occurred.
     
  22. FIVETWOSEVEN

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    Polymer does mean cheap, just depends on whether or not the company decides to overcharge for it.
     
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    If we are talking polymer frame, a lot more expensive than the FNPs I have seen. A lot more expensive than the Glocks I have seen.
     
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    No, it depends on whether consumers are willing to pay the same amount of money for a plastic pistol that they would for a milled steel pistol. So far, consumers have shown themselves perfectly willing to overpay for plastic guns held together with metal stampings.
     
  25. FIVETWOSEVEN

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    In a sense but the producer sets the price first and it was still high. Seems that the HK fans feel as though its better than all other guns for reasons that they can't fully describe. Only way I'll get a HK is a used for a good price or a new one when the company gets civie friendly and lowers their prices, or if they release semi auto versions of their military arms like they use to.
     
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